MY FRAME SHOP FLOODED...HELP!!!!!

seymour

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Hi. We had a 5 hr.torrential rain that flooded the basement of my shop with 4 ft. of water. (NO Joke). It was a storage and workspace. Lots of length and chops. Saw, equipment, supplies, tables, etc, etc . I am sick! I rent the space, I have business insurance, but of course no flood insurance. Is there any way to salvage the wood framing, it was under water about 12 hrs. Is there any way to collect some of the $5,000 I lostdown there???? Help me if you can! I am sick and blue over this. Yrs. of specialties. thx. seymour
 

JRB

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About five years ago, I came to work and found my entire shop flooded with raw sewage. It turned out to be the cities fault. They cleaned everything, and I mean cleaned, with steam and whatever else. They put in dehumidifiers, replaced carpeting, cleaned machines, hauled away damaged merchandise, and paid me $20,000.00

It doesn't sound like you're all that lucky. I would recommend renting a few dehumidifiers and talking to your CPA about establishing a loss for next years taxes.

John
 

Val

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I had a water pipe burst in my shop last March and lost most of my matboard inventory and my mat cutter, and some moulding, and a couple days of business while we cleaned up, but nothing as severe as yours. How awful!

I'm still working with my business insurance claim and all I can say is TAKE PICTURES! After the place is cleaned up you'll need them as evidence later. Pictures of everything! And lots of fans, running 24-7, de-humidifiers help but they're awfully slow.
 

Jim

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Lookfor a Fire and Water damage compant! Servince Master is here in North Carolina. Yout insurance company will probably recommend a company for u!
 

j Paul

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Seymour, sorry for your loss, don't know what I can do but if you need help to finish customers orders of something I am also in Toledo (Holland) and I have a CMC etc. I was worried about our place because we are surrounded by acres of blacktop and our back doors sits right a ground level but we came out OK!
 

Terry Scidmore CPF

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I know this sounds silly, but a "flood" isn't always a "flood".

See if you can identify why there was so much water coming into your basement - ie ground water from a rising water table, city sewer/storm drains backed up due to the excessive amount of water, driveways without drainage away from the building that siphoned the water into your basement, stream running over the bank, etc. If you can identify the cause, check over your insurance and your lease.

My home flooded a few years ago when we had 9 inches of rain in less than 15 hours. In my case, the sewer/storm drains backed up and sent the water down into my basement. The sewer and drain backup part of my insurance policy kicked in under this.

Another friend had a flooded house from a storm ditch that the city didn't fix properly. It was diverting water down their driveway into their house. They had contacted the city several times trying to get the city out to remedy the situation. The city never got around to fixing it and then we had the big storm.

The city had to foot the bill.

Your insurance agent should be able to recommend a company for water damage - per Jim Millers comment.

Sorry for your loss. Hope it all works out in a good way.
 

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did anyone else flood if not the there is a design flaw in the way the building is set up!~ See what you can get from your insurance. then go to your landlord and ask them what they are willing to help with $$$. Since it was their building that leaked. Had it ever flooded in the past? If so what did the landlords do to correct it? If nothing have your insurance company contact them maybe that will work. Just some ideas. If any are useful use it> If not ignore it!~ The wood moulding under water 12 hours cut it down into 2'lenghts and have a fire wood sale!~ Terry had somegood advice.
Before we bought our building a water pipe broke in my mat board storeage the first year in business the land lord conceded it was a faulty pipe he picked up the tab gave us 4 months rent. worked out to $2000.00 today that would be closer to $6700.00 today

Reminds me of the old joke punch line was "How do you set a flood?"
 

CAframer

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Really sorry to hear of your problem

Definitely contact someone like Service Master.

The job of removing water damage fully, and thereby avoiding additional problems such as mold, is complex, and should not be underestimated.

In April we went through a situation where we had 2" of water throughout our single storey home. Service Master did a great job.

Just to dry the place out took 5 days of huge dehumidifiers, fans, holes cut in sheetrock, baseboards ripped out, insulation removed, etc.

Even with all the equipment they brought in there was still peripheral damage due to high humidity (e.g. all the brass on our piano was badly damaged and has to be refinished).

Our situation occured in April and we are still working through repairs!
 

JRB

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Service Master was the company that did most of the work on our sewage flood. About a year before that happened, I came to work to find a huge pile of old, wet, carpet filling up most of my parking area behind my store. It also had new sections and plastic wrapping in the pile. Some SOB had dumped that huge mess the night before. I started pulling out the plastic wrapping and found a shipping label on one piece. The new carpet had been shipped to Service Master, San Diego. It took me almost two weeks to convince them they had to come and pick the mess up or get sued. At first they adamantly insisted that non of their people would do such a thing. They finally relented and came and cleared it all up.

John
 

osgood

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Seymour,
Down here in The Land of Oz, your event would most likely be called "stormwater", not flood. Here "flood" is when a river or a creek rises and inundates surrounding area.
This may different up there, but it's probably wise not to refer to your event as a "flood"!
 
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