Fletcher's Wall Décor Hanging System

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I was trolling Fletcher's site look for mo' manuals and found Fletcher's New Wall Décor Hanging System.

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have any of you used this? And what can you tell us about it. Good? Bad? Indifferent?

I can't find it at LJ, United or MM. Any of you know of a wholesale source for these?

http://www.fletcherviscom.com/wireless/wireless_Main.shtml

http://www.fletcherviscom.com/literature/WirelessHanger.pdf
 
Jim Miller and I have been using them extensively.

I discussed them on a number of threads.

I call them Fletcher Terry No Wire System
Sometimes called the wireless system.

They are available from M&M - probably under one of the above names?

The metal version should be out soon.

I use nothing else for security hanging!
 
Nowadays it would probably be best to avoid the term "wireless", since young folks would probably think it involves some kind of radio transmitter that would need batteries.
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Rick Granick said:
Nowadays it would probably be best to avoid the term "wireless", since young folks would probably think it involves some kind of radio transmitter that would need batteries.
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That's why it used to be called the "wireless hanging system" and is now called the "no wire hanging system."

There are still some in the pipeline called wireless though.

But, really, you can't tell an electronic device from a hanging system?

We really have lost the ability to think!
 
OK, I found them on MM. They are called "Fletcher Picture Perfect Wire-less Hanging System" on the MM site. I think I will try a few on my next order.

Here are the links for individual and bulk:

http://www.mmdistributors.com/product-p/8436.htm

http://www.mmdistributors.com/product-p/8437.htm

There are a couple of caveats for using these in a house with plaster walls.

First, the markers included WILL NOT make a mark in most plaster walls. In my 110 year old house, my cats sharpen their claws on a couple of wall corners. After a year of this, they haven't made a dent. Neither will these. I have used Hang & Level

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and this also will not make a mark/dent in the wall. I have gotten it to work by dabbing the point with a magic marker and then pressing the point against the plaster wall. You could do that with these hangers also.

The second and most important caveat is to never sell these to anyone with plaster walls without explaining to them the need to pre-drill all holes in plaster to keep from cracking the plaster ( and more importantly from damaging the plaster keys - see http://www.thegrumble.com/showthread.php?51969-Installation-on-Plaster-Walls&highlight=plaster+keys). We have some liability here if we don't, but I'm sure you are all aware of that already. I have hung well over 75 pictures on my hard-as-concrete plaster walls and if I wanted to remove any of them, none would need more than a paint touch up.
 
Like Cliff, I've been using the Fletcher system for a couple of years. Customers love them and so do I. There's a heavy-frame version that uses screw anchors instead of the usual nails, and it is very sturdy. I've also beta-tested the version for sectional aluminum frames. It works as well as the wood-frame versions do. Any oof them could be used for security hanging by adding a T-screw at the bottom.

Two weeks ago in a commercial office, Gail and I hung 58 frames equipped with the Fletcher system. It was easy to get them perfectly straight, with top edges aligned as the customer specified. The installation took 2 hours.
 
Larry Peterson said:
...The second and most important caveat is to never sell these to anyone with plaster walls without explaining to them the need to pre-drill all holes in plaster to keep from cracking the plaster ( and more importantly from damaging the plaster keys - see http://www.thegrumble.com/showthread.php?51969-Installation-on-Plaster-Walls&highlight=plaster+keys). We have some liability here if we don't, but I'm sure you are all aware of that already. I have hung well over 75 pictures on my hard-as-concrete plaster walls and if I wanted to remove any of them, none would need more than a paint touch up.
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Yikes! You ought to try hanging pictures in my house (1874). The plaster is more like cement with aggregate and behind that, on exterior walls, there are bricks between the studs.
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Pat Murphey said:
Yikes! You ought to try hanging pictures in my house (1874). The plaster is more like cement with aggregate and behind that, on exterior walls, there are bricks between the studs.
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So is my plaster in my circa 1900 house - but no brick. A good drill works wonders. I use 3/64" drills and drill at a 45 degree angle using the hanger as a guide. Those drills break easily so I buy them online by the dozen.
 
I hang a lot of commercial pieces where security hangers are specified - (I'll be doing 68 on Thursday).

I've looked at these hangers but just don't consider them as security hangers as the nail will pull out of drywall so easily. They would save some time - is their an alternate wall anchor instead of the nails?
 
Bandsaw said:
I hang a lot of commercial pieces where security hangers are specified - (I'll be doing 68 on Thursday).

I've looked at these hangers but just don't consider them as security hangers as the nail will pull out of drywall so easily. They would save some time - is their an alternate wall anchor instead of the nails?
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The security version comes with wall anchors, screws, and a "special plastic adapter" that mounts with the screws.

Then, a special plate is proveded that supports the marker, then uses the T-bolt.

No more guessing. Everything installs quickly, exactly, and securely.
 
Isn't this the "Wireless Magic Marker" system that was spoken about in this thread? http://www.thegrumble.com/showthread.php?23394-I-tried-a-new-hanging-system!

I bought some from Jack back then and I like them very much. They are great on what we call 'Gyprock' and you guys call 'Drywall'. Customers who have tried them once, always ask for them.

For the same type of wall, I reckon Beehive Hangers are slightly better and much simpler to use.
 
Larry Peterson said:
First, the markers included WILL NOT make a mark in most plaster walls.
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Try putting on the point a small dab of toothpaste, Crayon wax, lipstick, paint, ketchup - anything that will transfer a visible mark to the wall.

The second and most important caveat is to never sell these to anyone with plaster walls without explaining to them the need to pre-drill all holes in plaster to keep from cracking the plaster.
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Of course, but wouldn't this apply for any hanging system that requires making holes in the wall?
 
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