Boxing Gloves & Shorts To Be Framed?

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We have had a customer come in today with a pair of boxing gloves and shorts to be framed together.

The size of the frame will be large and the customer is ok with this. She wants it to be a feature in the games room.

The problem we are having is that the finished article is going to look top heavy. We can't do anything about that as she wants the gloves at the top and the shorts underneath them.

I have looked at the search under boxing gloves and although the boxing ring idea is fantastic , it is not suitable as she wants it all under glass and on the wall.

The deepest frame we have a sample of is 2" deep but we need 5" for clearance.
Not sure if we can get the plastic glove mounts in Aust we will look into those on Monday.
Is the fluted plastic board (corrugated) from the sign writers still the best way to go?
Also, what is the best way to hang it? D rings and wire would put strain on the side of the box. It will be heavy with the glass in it as well.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated

many thanks

Julie
 
Hello Julie,
I had about the same problem when framing a kids cowboy hat, vest, guns/holster, cowboy boots, & picture of the child all dressed up in these items. Everything was old and I had to be a little careful with the handling because of the leather in the holsters and the vest was ready to fall apart in my hands. I couldn't find pre-manufactured moulding that had enough depth so I got plan old wood stock and cut the rabbets, stained, sealed, and finished the frame myself - it looked really nice when done (I surprised myself). Took a little bit more time 2 - 3 hours but the customer was very happy with it and with the cost - 4 or 5 years ago and I believe the total job ended up being $490. or something close. If you can't make your own moulding I'm sure that you could get a moulding made reasonably at most cabinet making shops for not much cost.
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Joe B
 
Look at making an acrylic box - makes the item more visible without what will basically be a cabinet hanging on the wall.

Hangers? Hangman, z-bar would be the only way I'd go with something like this.
 
I agree....acrylic box would probably give you the best presentation. Framerica boxers would also work.
 
Julie, one of the boxing gloves with the ring was mine. I would have preferred to have put under an acrylic box.

When making the box have your fabricator add a 1/4x1/4 strip of acrylic (black preferred) to the outside bottom edge of the box. This will allow you go slip the frame over the box and have it catch this lip with the rabbet of the frame. Then fit like any other frame.

Dave
 
The gloves are to mounted above the shorts, right? In order to make it look less top heavy, I suggest bringing the shorts toward the front of the box. You could mount the garment flat and use spacers under the mount, or use a lot of carefully-placed padding, or a mannequin might work even better. Anyway, get the shorts out of the gloves' shadow.

I agree that an acrylic box would be far better than a deep-rabbet frame. As Dave said, acrylic strips around the open edge would enable you to fit it into a standard-rabbet frame. However, for such a big acrylic box I'd use 1/4" wide x 1/2" tall strips of acrylic. As Dave suggested, black strips are inconspicuous if visible from inside the box.

Yes, WallBuddies or Z-Bar.
 
I used Stackable frames with extensions to frame a baseball hat - about 5" tall. I need two 1 1/2" extensions with the 2" top mouldings.
Lined the inside with Mat board laminated to foam core for the inside. to cover the frame insides and to hold the glass in place.The top was about $8.25/foot of moulding and the extension were around $7.00 per foot per 1 1/2 " rise joined. Considering a 1'x1' box cost for materials was around $100-125. and the price to the customer was around $200-275.00. A box for what you described would probably be 2-3X the above. If you made it yourself the moulding cost would be less but the labor factor more.
 
If acrylic is out of the question, then hand build the outer box like someone said. That's what I did for a project recently that had to be deeper than normal. I think it was about 6" inches deep when all was said and done. It didn't look too bad either when hung up.

I would cut a v-groove on the back of the mat, and fold it up at an angle to bring the shorts to the front like someone suggested. Leave about an inch from the glass or whatever is needed to leave clearance. Build up the reverse with triangular pieces of fom-cor to keep it level.

Here's a picture of what I'm talking about. This is a side view with it laying on it's back.

dave.
 

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Joe B said:
Hello Julie,
I couldn't find pre-manufactured moulding that had enough depth so I got plan old wood stock and cut the rabbets, stained, sealed, and finished the frame myself - it looked really nice when done (I surprised myself). If you can't make your own moulding I'm sure that you could get a moulding made reasonably at most cabinet making shops for not much cost.
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Joe B
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Many thanks Joe for your reply..Why oh why are the moulding companies not making what we need?? LOL

I found out today the moulding she has chosen is only available in Black..Usually the basics are available in Black & White..OF COURSE she wants WHITE!!!!!
Back to the drawing board.......:shrug:

Julie V
 
AWG said:
Look at making an acrylic box - makes the item more visible without what will basically be a cabinet hanging on the wall.

Hangers? Hangman, z-bar would be the only way I'd go with something like this.
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Thanks AWG
I have spoken to the customer and suggested a few different ways but regretfully that is not what she wants. Great idea though and will keep it on file for future ref :thumbsup:


Julie V
 
Julie,
I don't think the Framerica Boxers are available in Oz. I've not been able to find them.

However Chamton/APM have a black painted wooden box moulding that is designed to work the same way. There are two sizes and I have samples of them at work. I'll try to remember to email the numbers to you tomorrow.
 
G'day Julie,

Framerica Boxers are just deep moulding (stackable), good for some things, but still a 'box on the wall'.

Charlie phoned the office today, but I was out.

Give me a call tomorrow on my mobile if you want a few tips on mounting and / or framing methods.
 
any pix of the fighter using them??? could make a small grouping down around the bottom and draw some visual away from the BIG gloves
 
How about an acrylic box with moulding? We also make holders for the gloves and can help make your project simple. Give me a call and I'll send pictures and explain the whole thing.
 
Thank you to everyone who has suggested ways of framing the gloves etc.

This project has been a huge lesson for us over the last few days and it has been wonderful!! We love a challenge, keeps the mind ticking both day and night :icon21:

We have discovered both Larson and Antons have samples mouldings that do in fact stack on top of each other to add depth. These are available in different sizes. I was thrilled today, as one of the reps was showing me the sample he said, "this one is not deep enough for you", I said "yes it is, we can add two together" he looked at me and I showed him how!! How good did I feel :thumbsup: In all his time he didn't realise that you could do that...

Our customer is now calling back tomorrow to choose a new moulding of her choice to fit over the stackable box.

Many thanks to all for their suggestions and help, both private and public we really appreciate it :thumbsup:

Cheers

Julie :)
 
I would use Framericas boxers, it does come in white. Two frames of 92267 and a cap of 91267 will give you a depth of 5 1/8". If depth becomes an issue you can add another boxer 93267 to bring it up another 1 1/4". I agree the gloves should be under the other objects but if they insist then raising the shorts is definitly a good call. Another thing to keep in mind is that the deeper you go the darker it will be. Make your borders a little bigger than if it were a flat piece to allow more light in. As for hanging I use wall buddies and have never had a problem.

Personally I would use the boxers to make the box but I wouldn't use the cap. I rip the rabbet off of the top boxer frame and mount whatever moulding I want to it with glue and staples. This helps to keep it from looking like a box on the wall. Using a lighter colored wall/rail can help to lighten up a deep box like that as well.
 
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