Nori Paste VS Lineco Hayaku Japenese Hinging Paper

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Does anyone use Nori Paste or Lineco Hayaku Japenese Hinging Paper?

Do you use one rather than the other?
Why?

Thanks,
 
It's pretty much a moot question, as Nori paste is, sadly, no longer being made.

Hayaku is ok for quick and dirty, but it does not allow you to feather out the edges as much as I would like or control the application of the paste. My money is still on traditional Washi paper and rice starch paste.
 
What FramerDave said. Also, according to at least one conservator's testing, Hayaku's adhesive contains some preservatives and other chemical elements that could affect the bond later. That is, the adhesive is not pure, unadulterated starch paste.
 
"Nori" is still made in great quantity. "Nori" is nothing more and nothing less then the Japanese word for paste, specifically rice paste.

Lineco's "instant" is a great savings of time and effort.... in about a minute you have some very nice paste. Preservatives aside.
 
Baer Charlton said:
"Nori" is still made in great quantity. "Nori" is nothing more and nothing less then the Japanese word for paste, specifically rice paste.

Lineco's "instant" is a great savings of time and effort.... in about a minute you have some very nice paste. Preservatives aside.
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Ok, fine if we're going to be pedantic about it, yes, nori is still being made. Nori brand pre-cooked and sealed rice starch paste is no longer being made.

Crikey, is cooking a batch of paste really that much of a hassle? The type of work we usually hinge to those standards is a high-ticket item. I would hope the few minutes of effort to cook it up is built into the price.
 
Bogframe said:
Is MethyCellulose past a viable option? I've been using it for years and haven't had any pieces come back to me yet.
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It's used a lot by paper conservators for repairs. It can be a bit wet for hinging. There were a couple other points about it that Hugh made in one of his classes but I'll let him explain it better than my tired memory probably could.
 
The only issue with methylcellulose is its adhesive strength. If you can make it hold the load,
it should be fine.



Hugh
 
The beauty of using cooked wheat starch paste is that you can use it with many different strengths of Japanese papers to control the strength of the hinges. Remember that the hinge must be the weak link - you want the hinge to tear before that art tears.

With wheat starch paste you can accurately control the wetness of the paste with timing. Wait say 4 minutes after pasting before applying the hinges. Too soon, too wet. Too late, too dry. You should learn just how long to wait for your application. Don't learn on customers art.

When demonstrating our now extinct Nori paste at the trade shows I typically made wet torn hinges from Shekishu (medium weight Japanese paper) bonding only the last 1/4 inch of a 3/4 inch wide hinge. After about 20 minutes under weights and regular old paper towel pads, I could get 5-7 lbs. shear strength on one hinge. The bond NEVER failed but the hinge paper tore as planned.

You can find a very simple and easy recipe for wheat starch paste here: http://www.frametek.com/HTML/Articles/Wheat_Starch_Paste.html

This is not rocket science folks. I can even do it! There is also a pretty good article on the FrameTek web pages on hinging. Different than museums do - but we're in a different business than museums. Check it out
 
Ok... I'm just guessing but can I get wheat starch at any grocery store or do I need to order it from somewhere?:shrug:
 
The hinging starch available from preservation suppliers is often free of gluten, a vegetable protein that makes bread crusty and which is not good in hinging paste. Thus, gluten-free starch paste from a preservation supply source is better than the food-grade starch from a grocery.



Hugh
 
Maybe I'm making more out of this than need be. Here's what I got and why I asked about hinging.

A customer brought in two art pieces. Both are prints made from leather carvings, inked, then rolled onto paper. Only one is signed. One is on a heavier weight paper. The other (not signed) is on what appears to be a thin hand made paper. The heavier paper I can use archival strips as I usually do. I think the other paper is to thin for the strips to hold it in place. That's why I thought of hinging. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.

Hugh, can you suggest a preservation supplier?

Does dry rice starch have a shelf life? In my shop, which I've had 1-1/2 years, I found a plastic bottle of rice starch from Lineco. I did not buy it and don't know how long it's been around.
 
You can look on the Web for University Products, Talas, Light Impressions, Conservation Resources International, Gaylord, Metal Edge, and you can look for Lineco at the art supply store.


Hugh
 
I'm sorry to say that FrameTek has about 50 lbs. of wheat starch left over from our feeble attempt at making pre-cooked wheat starch paste packets (Nori) available to framers.

We'll be most happy to supply all you need at a good price. Call weekdays 8-4:30 Pacific time 1-800-227-9934
 
Thanks all for the replies.

Greg, I actually have several packets of your product that came with the my shop. It's just that they are marked "Best used before March 2005"
 
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