Help Need to remove dents/finger bends from a print
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It's been my experience that once finger dings are there, they are always there... sowwy..
rubytuesday
True Grumbler
Maybe place it between two pieces of mattboard and give it a stint in the press?
If you are feeling particularly adventerous (sometimes not a great idea...!)then I have had success with a fine mist of distilled water on the back and then between the mattboard in the press.
Ok it with customer first - are they their fingerprints or yours??!!
If you are feeling particularly adventerous (sometimes not a great idea...!)then I have had success with a fine mist of distilled water on the back and then between the mattboard in the press.
Ok it with customer first - are they their fingerprints or yours??!!
BlueHorseStudios
Grumbler
if you put in a heat press, use silicone release paper so the misted print does not become glued to the mat covers.
PaulSF
PFG, Picture Framing God
As a last resort, you could mount to Artcare Restore. That should mask the dents, and it's reversible.
Baer Charlton
SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
once you bend and cause that little crease in paper, it's there forever.
It all happens in a nanosecond and on a micro level. The smallest fibers tear while the larger create the "hinge" it "folds on". When the small short fibers tear, they pull slightly out of their space or "socket" and where the tear occurs, they fray causing an increase in volume in the area but also a weakness in the integrity of the "weave" or "seat". Because there is nothing in the tear to relax and heal.... it will never go away.
As for a finger nail dent.... that can be dehydrated by a conservator to almost disappear.
This is why documents and other paper items need to be carried in a cantonary arch (think St Lou), it is the strongest form of support, and the least resistant to a crease.... like a roll... on touch and you have creases migration telegraphed through ever level of the roll.
Encapsulate and tape out on a board is the best for smaller doc and posters.
It all happens in a nanosecond and on a micro level. The smallest fibers tear while the larger create the "hinge" it "folds on". When the small short fibers tear, they pull slightly out of their space or "socket" and where the tear occurs, they fray causing an increase in volume in the area but also a weakness in the integrity of the "weave" or "seat". Because there is nothing in the tear to relax and heal.... it will never go away.
As for a finger nail dent.... that can be dehydrated by a conservator to almost disappear.
This is why documents and other paper items need to be carried in a cantonary arch (think St Lou), it is the strongest form of support, and the least resistant to a crease.... like a roll... on touch and you have creases migration telegraphed through ever level of the roll.
Encapsulate and tape out on a board is the best for smaller doc and posters.
sad but true---the very 1st thing we ALL want to do is rip off the cover and put our greasy little paws on the virgin print and pick it up!!!!!!!!!
photogs need to be educated to educate their customers to LEAVE THE PIC ALONE and not pick it up!!!!!!!!!!!
I had one last year 22x28ish wedding pic---was soooooo binged & dinged(and NOT just around the edges--was some a hand span into the print) from handeling that I ask cust if they might not want to get it reprinted BEFORE I started --- the answer was, of course, NO ("I've already spent too much on the wedding"). No amount of cajoling would sway them--even pointed out that 20 years from now it will STILL look that way and they will have had to look at it for 20 yrs! :bdh:
photogs need to be educated to educate their customers to LEAVE THE PIC ALONE and not pick it up!!!!!!!!!!!
I had one last year 22x28ish wedding pic---was soooooo binged & dinged(and NOT just around the edges--was some a hand span into the print) from handeling that I ask cust if they might not want to get it reprinted BEFORE I started --- the answer was, of course, NO ("I've already spent too much on the wedding"). No amount of cajoling would sway them--even pointed out that 20 years from now it will STILL look that way and they will have had to look at it for 20 yrs! :bdh:
Dave
SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
These usually will do the trick...
SusanG
SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Frame Gal,
Could you call the artist or publisher to ask if they have some un-numbered prints in which they might replace the damaged one? You didn't mention the artist but in the past, many publishers have done this for my customers that might have damaged prints.
Susan
Could you call the artist or publisher to ask if they have some un-numbered prints in which they might replace the damaged one? You didn't mention the artist but in the past, many publishers have done this for my customers that might have damaged prints.
Susan
You can try this apply some (damp not soaking) mositure to the area then sandwhich the area between two sheets of glass larger than the dent, say 10 x 10", put some wieghts on the glass and let sit for a few hours or over night.
If the paper has a crinkle you out of luck, see a paper conservator.
To avoid making these kind of creases I advise alway holding a piece of paper by the opposite diagonal corners. This goes against PPFA handling guide lines, I am not sure why, but thats how I was taught by printmakers and it works.
If the paper has a crinkle you out of luck, see a paper conservator.
To avoid making these kind of creases I advise alway holding a piece of paper by the opposite diagonal corners. This goes against PPFA handling guide lines, I am not sure why, but thats how I was taught by printmakers and it works.
PaulSF
PFG, Picture Framing God
sad but true---the very 1st thing we ALL want to do is rip off the cover and put our greasy little paws on the virgin print and pick it up!!!!!!!!!
photogs need to be educated to educate their customers to LEAVE THE PIC ALONE and not pick it up!!!!!!!!!!!
I had one last year 22x28ish wedding pic---was soooooo binged & dinged(and NOT just around the edges--was some a hand span into the print) from handeling that I ask cust if they might not want to get it reprinted BEFORE I started --- the answer was, of course, NO ("I've already spent too much on the wedding"). No amount of cajoling would sway them--even pointed out that 20 years from now it will STILL look that way and they will have had to look at it for 20 yrs! :bdh:
Bill, what makes you think they'll still be married in 20 years? In 5 years?
Thanks for all the great suggestions.
The artist brought the damaged prints in. They were from an edition he had printed long ago, almost all sold out. He has a customer who wants to buy them. They were printed on a really heavy rag paper (not the shiney stiff paper lots of prints are on these days), we were able to get most of the dents out by moistening blotter paper and putting it and the print in the press. The artist was pleased, problem solved. I don't think it would have worked had the paper been different.
The artist brought the damaged prints in. They were from an edition he had printed long ago, almost all sold out. He has a customer who wants to buy them. They were printed on a really heavy rag paper (not the shiney stiff paper lots of prints are on these days), we were able to get most of the dents out by moistening blotter paper and putting it and the print in the press. The artist was pleased, problem solved. I don't think it would have worked had the paper been different.