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Shayla

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I'm planning to mount a record in front of a float back
in a shadowbox frame, and I'm trying to find a thread
that showed photos of that. Whoever framed it ran a
screw of some kind through the center hole and substrates,
then put a washer on the back of the substrate. Searched
for 'record' and 'album' and didn't bring it up.

Have you framed such a one, and if so, how? I'm especially
interested in what sort of top end the push-through could
have, so that it doesn't just look like a screw. Thanks.
 
That is exactly what you do, and as I recall Pat at Attach EZ had plug of some sort for records, maybe it was cap for a screw.
 
I'm not familiar with Pat's device, but if it's an LP that you're mounting (not a 45) you can get what you need at Ace Hardware.
In the screw section they have hinged, plastic screw covers that come in black, brown, white and possibly other colors and they come in a couple of sizes.
There are also colored screw caps available without the hinge that just press on over a screw head.
I like the hinged ones because they come with a matching base.

You should browse the screw and hardware section at Ace sometime.
It's amazing the amount of specialty screws and things that they have that can really help.
I just picked up a bunch of stainless button head allen screws, washers and T-nuts for a project this week.

You can take the proper size short machine screw, put it through the base of the hinged cap and through the record and back.
Put a big fender washer on the backside with a nut and tighten carefully, not too tight.
The hinged cap has a rounded, button top that then snaps over the screw head so all you see is a black, brown or white rounded cap.
Black would probably look the best.
I've used the colored plastic hinged screw caps for various projects and they work well and cost about a buck a piece or less.
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They were talking about those brass things with two prongs that hold papers together. From Staples. Can't find them at the site, though.acorn clip.jpg
 
Thanks, guys! I appreciate it! :thumbsup:
 
photo added to my post. Google "brass paper clips"
 
Another possible option, cut a circle matt with opening just a bit smaller than record, and build up back using that to hold album in place.
 
CB Art & Framing said:
Another possible option, cut a circle matt with opening just a bit smaller than record, and build up back using that to hold album in place.
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I cut a sink mat about 1/16th larger than the record, to hold it in place, then a top mat 1/16 to 1/8th smaller, to keep it in place.

But I think Shayla wants to float it.
 
RParrish said:
That is exactly what you do, and as I recall Pat at Attach EZ had plug of some sort for records, maybe it was cap for a screw.
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Randy is correct and the information on using this method would be on DVD 102. I developed this method about 6 or 7 years ago and it works really well for mounting records, 45's and CD's. We have screw covers in many colors and in two sizes with a larger one for CD's and DVD's. We use nylon screws that are an inch long and nylon nuts to screw them in place. If you don't have my kit and you want to float the record I would use art care foam board as spacers for the record to rest on. Keep in mind, when you are screwing in the nut, you only make it tight enough to hold the record in place so it won't turn, but without bowing so as not to put undue stress on the record.
 
Lafontsee said:
A correctly sized binder post AKA Chicago screw will work as well. You can get them with plain ends so they don't look so screw-like.

James
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I was told by a record collector that you should never use medal screws to mount records. I believe it had something to do with the rigidity and with the record resting on the sharp groves that after awhile it can start flaking the vinyl and in a catastrophic fall the record is way more likely to break. He also said that a very valuable record should be kept in the dark to avoid UV damage and to prevent drying out and becoming brittle. Unfortunately doing that would mean never mounting an album, which would not be good for our business. I'm sure that there is someone here on the G who knows more about it than I do. My customer, who was a collector wanted the impossible. It was one of those Vivian Kistler moments. In her words, we are framers, not magicians. He wanted the album mounted without anything touching it, includeing the nylon screw in the center.
 
Aside from exposing it to light, the sink mat/top mat situation I described most closely matches how an LP sits inside an album cover.

I think.
 
tedh said:
Aside from exposing it to light, the sink mat/top mat situation I described most closely matches how an LP sits inside an album cover.

I think.
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So... you have never actually seen an album cover?? How old are you?

A record is put into an envelope of sorts and that is slid into the cardboard cover.

Not long after that, the inner sleeve is lost for some stoned reason and the record is just slid into the cardboard cover which is later lost for some stoned reason and then the record is just aded to the pile nest to the record player... after which it is carefully wiped clean with the front of the shirt of the listener. :thumbsup:
 
Pat Kotnour said:
I was told by a record collector that you should never use medal screws to mount records. I believe it had something to do with the rigidity and with the record resting on the sharp groves that after awhile it can start flaking the vinyl and in a catastrophic fall the record is way more likely to break.
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That is interesting. I haven't heard that. It may well be true. In the scenario I suggested, there wouldn't be any sharp edges for the record to rest on. The female part of the Chicago screw is smooth and that is what the record would rest on. They are also available in plastic.

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James
 
framah said:
So... you have never actually seen an album cover?? How old are you?

A record is put into an envelope of sorts and that is slid into the cardboard cover.

Not long after that, the inner sleeve is lost for some stoned reason and the record is just slid into the cardboard cover which is later lost for some stoned reason and then the record is just aded to the pile nest to the record player... after which it is carefully wiped clean with the front of the shirt of the listener. :thumbsup:
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Yeh, that kind of sums it up for a lot of old records. I have about 50 or 60 of Elvis, John Lennon, the Beatles, Janice Joplin and a whole lot more that anyone younger than about 50 probably would never have heard of. They all sitll have the jackets inside and out. We don't even have anything to play them on anymore.
 
Older records (circa wind-up gramophone) were made from very brittle plastic. Newer ones are a lot tougher, although with plastic you can never tell how the structure of the plastic will age. Some very ropey quality records were produced during the '70s oil crisis.

In any case I would agree with not having a metal screw in contact. A lot of these capped fixings have a plastic bush though.
 
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