Float mounting between two sheets of acrylic

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I have customer that wants poster floated between two sheets of acrylic, with no mat, but with spacer between the sheets. Does this require a Jim Miller technique using clear film?
Also I have read some threads reffering to 'perimeter framing' and "Hugh's" book. Can someone tell me what and where I can get this book?
 
What is the size of the poster? Is this required because the customer whats a clear border around the poster so they can see the wall behind it? What thickness acrylic are you planning to use?

The only way I can think of, that we have tried, is to build an acrylic box frame. leave the top edge open, then insert the poster and hinge it to the back sheet of acrylic and then fasten the top edge on the acrylic frame to enclose the whole thing. This then has to be mounted onto the wall.
You need to be mindful of the acylic expanding and contracting, when you do the hinging so I am not sure if this will work with a large piece.

We have used a rail and suspended the acrylic box from the rail with nylon perlons. I have a photo somewhere at work. I will see if I can locate it to show you the finished example.

We did this recently with a kimono.

You would have to get the box frame made. The only way I know of making an acrylic box like this yourself, is using an acylic adhesive such as one made by Plexiglass (cant think of the name this minute) and you really need to use this with an opal/satin acrylic I think.
 
lastboat said:
The posters are 16" x 20" -
Yes, she wants to see the back wall, and it can be framed with a molding, probably thin ash or something.
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The problem with floating is if you use something like Lineco self adhesive corner pocket, is eventually the adhesive fails and the item falls. So if you do go that route, inform your client. That way you can cover yourself when they bring them back and thus charge them for refitting. You migfht be better off with no spacer and just sandwhich between plexi glass.

For your frame how are you going to hang it?

I would suggest Nielsen #97, great design for doing this kind of thing and you can use the Nielsen sawtooth hanger.
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Why the spacers between the acrylic sheets. Just sandwich the posters between the two sheets. Drill holes in each corner and use connector boltsconnector.jpg

to keep the two pieces of acrylic together.

Make your own hangers acrylic hanger.JPG

And your project is done.

If your customer insists on having a spacer, then you have the difficulty of keeping the poster centered. You could find a company the laser cuts acrylic to make the inner mat the exact size of the poster to hold it in place and still allow for the wall to be seen. (here in Pueblo, the company charges $80.00/hour you supply the materials/one hour minimum.)

Hope this helps
 
acrylic sheet

Sadly, clients see items that are mounted to sheets of acrylic and think that they are framed, but since none of us is a magician, we lack the power to make things hover. Acrylic sheets will warp if clipped together and the screws shown here and a frame are the only safe way of bring them together. Nothing will protect the poster from pollution, if the acrylic edges are left open and there is no safe way to keep it in place. If the poster is worth a framing, it is worth a traditional frame.


Hugh
 
lastboat said:
I have customer that wants poster floated between two sheets of acrylic, with no mat, but with spacer between the sheets. Does this require a Jim Miller technique using clear film?
Also I have read some threads reffering to 'perimeter framing' and "Hugh's" book. Can someone tell me what and where I can get this book?
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What kind of poster are we talking about? If it's a $5 thing from Lieberman's then just drymount the puppy on matboard or something of similar thickness, trim to the edge with a reverse bevel and glue it down to the rear acrylic with acrylic gel or gloss medium. Spacers, frame and call it done.

If it needs to be hinged, then hinge it as usual with a couple extra along the sides and bottom, then mount it on a 4-ply matboard cut slightly undersize. Wrap the hinges to the back of the board, leaving the side and bottom hinges a little loose, and secure to the back of the board. Then glue the heck out of the matboard and stick it to the rear acrylic. Spacers, frame and call it done.
 
lastboat said:
Does this require a Jim Miller technique using clear film?
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You have said nothing about the size, condition, or value of this poster, but clear film probably would not be involved in any sort of 'sandwich' mounting technique.

Unless you care to tell us more, we can only suggest blindly.
 
FramerDave said:
What kind of poster are we talking about? If it's a $5 thing from Lieberman's then just drymount the puppy on matboard or something of similar thickness, trim to the edge with a reverse bevel and glue it down to the rear acrylic with acrylic gel or gloss medium. Spacers, frame and call it done.

If it needs to be hinged, then hinge it as usual with a couple extra along the sides and bottom, then mount it on a 4-ply matboard cut slightly undersize. Wrap the hinges to the back of the board, leaving the side and bottom hinges a little loose, and secure to the back of the board. Then glue the heck out of the matboard and stick it to the rear acrylic. Spacers, frame and call it done.
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^^This is what first came to mind for me as well.

Mount the poster, if that is what it is, to four ply mat board and proceed with framing it. Unmounted, the poster will likely wrinkle and your customer will think it is unsightly on their wall.

Rob
 
Jim Miller said:
You have said nothing about the size, condition, or value of this poster, but clear film probably would not be involved in any sort of 'sandwich' mounting technique.

Unless you care to tell us more, we can only suggest blindly.
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They are prints for allposters.com/ so, little value.
Size, 16" x 20" with 4" surround so frame size of 24" x 28"
 
24x28 is doable. I would use 1/8th inch on top and a thicker sheet for back to minimize the potential bowing. 1/8th inch for both piece will work, as I have done so in the past.

I like this look for a display of certain types of art/posters and for artists displays who need something they can change out quickly and know that this process is not a permanent display option.

See above post on how I do this process.
 
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