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Question You're the new CEO of The American Picture Framing Academy

Emibub

PFG, Picture Framing God
Joined
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Oh and on topic, if were ceo I wouldn't show Vivian Kistler videos as part of instruction or offer to sell matboard samples to my students. Thats complete rumor and might be very false. If so please forgive me as I'm in the wrong. If it's true, as a local police officer from my home town suggests, then I would stop.

This made me laugh Jay. Remember when you I and almost came to blows over this topic? What was I thinking?
 

Paul Cascio

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Joined
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Messages
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Can't end it just yet. I know it isn't Festivus but I feel the need to have the "Airing of the Grievances" first........................


After a couple days to cool off I went back and reread my original posting. Sure I was being a smart alec, I will be the first to admit that. But, I see no personal attack on you Paul. I was suggesting you don't come off in a very pleasant positive manner(your behavior here sure backs that up) and I would change that. I also suggested you might be obsessed with the BB's and I find that negative. Where was that any more of a personal attack than anything else anybody else said? It certainly didn't warrant the very personal attack you threw at me. The most disturbing part though was you PMing me and "suggesting" I delete my post and you would delete your attack on me. It creeped me out a bit.

As to your comments about me..................If I did bring up my decision to not pay the previous owners I am sure it was in context of a discussion. I don't recall bragging about it becuase I wouldn't. I think every person who has given me any business advice advised me to stop paying. I had to be convinced. The business was not here to pay them much less myself, there were things not disclosed at purchase, I did not represent myself well in the purchase. They were just as foolish as I was to think I could support myself off of a business that they were trying to get out from under. They knew I had to support myself on the store. I was the only one assuming the risk. They were literally weeks away from just shutting down and selling off the pieces. I did get legal advice and was advised it was not a binding contract. I offered to give the store back to them with the improvements I had made and they declined. I am perfectly comfortable with that decision. My ethics are fully intact. I can sleep at night. My explanation is for others reading this I could give a toss what you think of me.

As to the other comment you deleted about me closing my doors. Yeah, what about it? If it makes you feel superior to remind me I have failed then good for you. I could have easily kept it all to myself and disappeared into the ether but I chose to be up front about it. I did what I could with what I had. I could continue but the shopping center is declining, the economy is unstable and I don't have anything to fight it with financially or emotionally. Closing will be a relief.

I stand by my original posting, I am prone to opening my mouth and speaking up and I know being a smart alec makes me a target. I had just read your insulting post in the Online Exchange thread and it had pissed me off. You took a shot at somebody who volunteers his time to keep that forum running. You know full well how the Online Exchange works, you were rampant posting on it last year when you were setting yourself up as the saviour of the independents.(that would be a personal attack) I think it set the tone for my posting in this thread.

I don't think you did yourself any favors here. You seem to be smug in the thought that you have somehow exacted some sort of revenge or punishment on me. Just the opposite, I've gotten so many PM's and emails offering support over this. It has actually worked out in my best interest, I do believe your stock continues to fall.................but I will take the time to wish you well as I am trying to live my life without malevolence.
I'll assume you are sincere Kathy and do the same in wishing you well. I will also make my best to effort to be kinder and gentler in my future posts. The words we write often seem different to others than to us. A lesson we need to remind ourselves of.
I consider this matter concluded and want to wish you good luck in your future endeavors.

We've all had, myself included, our share of failures. How well and how quickly we respond and what we learn from those failures is what's really important.

As entrepreneurs, we take risks that others are afraid to take. We experience feelings of pride and success, frustration and failure that others don't. We don't leave work at 5pm and we rarely leave it completely. I do hope you give entrepreneuship another go, but I wish success in whichever path you choose. Good luck Kathy.
 

Steph

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Joined
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Messages
2,876
This whole thing has been bugging me for a couple of days. I would be better off staying away I am too sure, as there is no love loss between Paul and myself. This should be considered a critique and not a personal attack.

Paul it has been noted to you many times that the reason many folks here have issues with you has much to do with attiutde and presentation of your posts. They have a tendency to reek of self-serving toxicity. It certainly feels that if your thoughts and ideas are challenged or if someone disagrees this is where the personal attacks from you start. Yes this thread being started was an invitation for criticism from others, but I suspect its a result of much frustration from many folks here.

Many times when a new threadis started by you it feel as if the Grumble has become your research for your next project and that we are your guinea pigs. We actually are rather intelligent people here and are not so easily swayed towards the new coming.

You obviously do a lot of research on your opposers whether it be looking up their demographics or searching through someitmes years of their past posts looking for anything to throw back at them. As was the apparent case of Kathy.

It is also obvious that quick to temper is the standard and it has been noted that venomous attacks and implied threats in PM's and e-mails is to be expected.

A suggestion Paul to follow up this critique would be to take some time to cool off if you are so easily inflammed before posting. Take some time to put yourself in someone else's shoes before you type. Reconsider how you approach the Grumble with new ideas. I think we can all benefit from the suggestions I just laid out, and I think you could be better received as well.

On a final note, I think Levie had some very interesting things to say and all was well presented. Something good can come from all of this if you would just let it happen.
 

Steph

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Joined
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Messages
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Wow, Paul I guess I took too long to type....very nice response to Kathy. I hope you see that my post is intended to be a honest critique and in no way is a personal attack. If your last post becomes more the norm I think you will find a lot of frustration will dissipate.
 

Paul Cascio

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Joined
Oct 5, 2006
Messages
4,658
Steph, I do understand about your initial post and appreciate that you pointed out the timing issue. Regardless, I thought your comments were candid and heartfelt.

One thing you brought up that I found interesting and hadn't heard before was, "Many times when a new threadis started by you it feel as if the Grumble has become your research for your next project and that we are your guinea pigs."

I sometimes am seeking views and testing an idea or theory. No doubt about it and that's a fair use in my view. However, usually I'm just trying to stimulate thought, promote discussion, increase traffic by livening the forum, or challenge conventional thinking. I am something of a maverick as I'm sure you've noticed. :)
 
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