Some of those FACTS threads are getting pretty long, so here's a new one to chew on. If you're bored with the whole thing, you can't say I tricked you into reading.
Greg Fremstad from Frame Tek has been the patron saint of FACTS. He just posted a couple of significant messages on the PPFA HH and I asked if he would either repeat them on The Grumble or allow me to. He chose the latter. Here's the first one:
I've read a lot of posts in the last few days about the FACTS mat board standard. This is a very powerful and important document, but did you
realize that FACTS has also created a similar standard for Glazing? Equally as important is the fact that all of the glass manufactures involved in helping the committee develop these "consensus standards" agreed upon
"standard" terminology. You can't write standards if you don't have standard, agreed upon terminology.
I would agree that these standards, written just like ASTM standards, are a little difficult to read. They have to be written that way to close
loopholes for product claims. Either they meet the standard or they don't.
Don & Kris have spent thousands of hours (as unpaid volunteers) on this monumental effort. (Along with lots of other non-paid and even some paying volunteers). They also spent thousands of their own dollars. There are several committees still 'kinda working along on other standards but without an active director, they are more or less direction-less.
The money is needed to hire a staff to promote and maintain the standards, develop new standards as they become necessary, oversee the committees, pay for phones, web hosting, postage, etc.
If you haven't actually taken the time to look at the FACTS web pages and read all of the material already there, I can understand why you would just "wait and see".
Please take a fresh look.
Greg Fremstad
FACTS Sponsor and Volunteer
Frame Tek, Inc.
Eugene OR
PS: I'm a member of a new FACTS committee to help determine what other
standards are wanted/needed. Any ideas? Let me know.
Greg Fremstad from Frame Tek has been the patron saint of FACTS. He just posted a couple of significant messages on the PPFA HH and I asked if he would either repeat them on The Grumble or allow me to. He chose the latter. Here's the first one:
I've read a lot of posts in the last few days about the FACTS mat board standard. This is a very powerful and important document, but did you
realize that FACTS has also created a similar standard for Glazing? Equally as important is the fact that all of the glass manufactures involved in helping the committee develop these "consensus standards" agreed upon
"standard" terminology. You can't write standards if you don't have standard, agreed upon terminology.
I would agree that these standards, written just like ASTM standards, are a little difficult to read. They have to be written that way to close
loopholes for product claims. Either they meet the standard or they don't.
Don & Kris have spent thousands of hours (as unpaid volunteers) on this monumental effort. (Along with lots of other non-paid and even some paying volunteers). They also spent thousands of their own dollars. There are several committees still 'kinda working along on other standards but without an active director, they are more or less direction-less.
The money is needed to hire a staff to promote and maintain the standards, develop new standards as they become necessary, oversee the committees, pay for phones, web hosting, postage, etc.
If you haven't actually taken the time to look at the FACTS web pages and read all of the material already there, I can understand why you would just "wait and see".
Please take a fresh look.
Greg Fremstad
FACTS Sponsor and Volunteer
Frame Tek, Inc.
Eugene OR
PS: I'm a member of a new FACTS committee to help determine what other
standards are wanted/needed. Any ideas? Let me know.