Yet Another Blasted Jersey

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Have to (sorry: GET to) frame another jersey. After reading all the archives, I called Lois @ Superior and had a good conversation with her. But I'd like a little advice.

I'm going to go with an acrylic box, 32 x 40, and will use a hanger furnished by Lois on which to hang the jersey. I'll top a strainer with mount board and cover with fabric for the backboard. When all complete, I'll slide a frame down the box to hang flush with the wall. Here's the question: Lois says she can eliminate the need for a strainer by adding an acrylic rabbet filler to the outside of the box so the frame stops at the perfect point to be flush, but then you need to keep it secure with a glue of some kind. What if I need to get back into the thing, such as later when critters might invade it or Marcus Allen's ghost fogs the plexi? My solution is to use a strainer as usual, screw the box to the strainer side, and secure the frame to the back of the strainer with mending plates. Then I can hang it from the strainer. Thoughts please? I cringe at the thought of irreversible workups. And then again, it's quite possible I misunderstood Lois on the fitting stuff.


(How'd this get so long? )
 
MM,

I saw these things at Lois' workshop in Atlanta and they are very slick. It seems to me they allow you to fit the box like you would a conventional frame with backing, your fitting tool of choice and a dust cover on the wood frame. (Using Wallbuddies, of course.) The backside of the acrylic box is not flush with the backside of the wood frame. There is plenty of room left inside the frame to do whatever you want.

You could even hide stuff in there.

I was sitting between FramerGuy and Sue May and way too close to Mel and Linda, so I might have imagined the whole thing.
 
Hi, Merps:

The "rabbet filler" Lois talked about is probably a strip of acrylic, probably 1/4" wide x 3/8" high, glued to each side of the outer perimeter of the acrylic box's opening. (I specify black strips for my boxes.) That makes it easy to fit the acrylic box just as you would fit the contents of a typical frame, with fitting points. Likewise, it could be disassembled just like a typical frame.

I wonder if I can "draw" it here...

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If you send me your FAX number, I will send you an illustrated instruction sheet for what I call "The Edge"; it's one page of the class handout for "The Complete Guide To Shadowboxes and Object Framing".

Whatever Lois calls it, it will do what you described.
 
Lois' product is similar to Jim's idea, But I recall that Lois' boxes have a reverse bent corner creating the flange that is caught under the lip of the frame. Then the need for a stretcher is eliminated because you are going to make this up the exact same why you would any other piece of framing, except the acrylic that would normally go on the front FLAT has a little 90 degree edge that is caught under the lip of the moulding and the box itself protrudes out the front 3,4,6 inches or whatever you specify.

Talk about a run-on sentence. Sorry.

We are talking about the same product, Ron, aren't we?
 
Thanks,

You've got it about right. That's what I meant when I said "Fit as usual" the frame (read Acrylic box) does come forward of the moulding and you do not have to glue the acrylic box to the moulding. Your normal backing will hold the acrylic frame in place.

For pictures call me at work and I will e-mail them to any of you.

Lois@SuperiorAcrylic.com
 
I think I have this, guys, but will study it further. Lois, I'll call tomorrow for more info, and will e-mail you, Jim, with my fax number. Thanx, you all are great as usual!
 
I used one of these boxes for a baseball bat & football that I framed. Lois was very helpful in deciding what sizes I needed, and how it should be put together. I loved the way it came out. More importantly, so did my customer
 
I'm slow today so haven't settled on anything yet, but have a question. I played around with a shaped suit hanger with the jersey, and I'm not crazy about the "look." Any of you used the hanger affair? Did you also stitch the jersey to discipline it some so it doesn't look like an old something out of the back of a closet?

Lois, you're getting high praise for the pretty boxes you make.
 
Okay the pictures are on the way for those who asked for them. Let me know if anyone else wants a few of different things.

Lois
 
We do ALOT of jerseys. Had a contract a couple years ago to do 50! I hate the work, but love the money.
We actually cut a form out of acid free foamcore for the body of the jersey...fold the arms and cut a form for each arm. Then the whole thing is hand stitched to a backing, top mat with spacers, plexi, deep metal or wood frame and assembly. We stitch so it is easily taken out of the frame.
I end up doing at least one a week, so folks up here must like the look I guess.
But here is a remark about framing jerseys in the first place...why on earth would you want to have some stinky piece of clothing framed anyways? It has to be a guy thing...you NEVER hear of a woman bringing in some article of clothing from a women's sport do you?
 
Originally posted by dressurfan:
It has to be a guy thing...you NEVER hear of a woman bringing in some article of clothing from a women's sport do you?
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In Tennessee, Lady Vols stuff is very popular. Especially after, what, 5-6 National Championships!

Betty
 
I stand corrected. Sorry.

99 percent of the jersey's I frame are professional sport related. It is male dominated. We did do up a Team Canada Women's Hockey jersey, signed by the whole team...but it was a guy that ordered it.
I should also state that we do have women bring in this stuff to do as gifts for their husbands, boyfriends, sons, brothers, etc, etc...but never for themselves.
 
If framing jerseys is a problem for anyone, send the customer to us, we love to do them and frame them is several different ways. The last one was football player that I was not familiar with but he must have been two yards wide at the shoulders. We sold a lot of moulding and moorman fabric for that one. The last item was a T-shirt framed so that it was rising out of a coffee mug and spreading to complete the shoulder spread. Another big guy. Problem has been to stock a variety of deep mouldings for all of the incidental that they want framed with the jersey. We use a lot of 4" deep raw mouldings and finish them ourselves to suit the customer.

Please send us more.

Jack Cee
 
dressurfan, we've done tons of sports jerseys, too; but, never have done a "used" one.
Ours are always brand-new, and have been autographed by the sports figure. I did a Christmas Homes Tour in our area today and saw a bunch of them: seems these folks in those really large, really expensive homes like to frame up a lot of sports memoribilia. Most, sad to say, showed little imagination. Picture a baseball shirt smashed flat with plexi. Looks for all the world like a squashed bug. Sigh. Think I'll stick with Lois' acrylic box thingie.

You know (and this really isn't germaine), I'm always surprised at the art hung in these beautiful homes. Not very often is it arresting. Seems to be a lot of poster art which any of us recognizes from catalogs, etc. Wonder what y'all would say coming into our place? :D Nonetheless, these places are a real joy to visit.
 
I will never forget one customer who came in to have a jersey framed. With pride he carefully unwrapped his package of tissue to reveal a Team Canada jersey...signed by the player. OK - I thought....but this was no ordinary jersey...this was a GAME jersey he informed me as he was gazing down at it wistfully.
Don't ask what game they played cause I don't remember...but I do remember stating to him that it was unfortunate that it was so dirty and marked up....he went on to explain how each grimy mark was created...who checked when, and how hard, and the penalty and...you get the idea. He refused to get it cleaned first.
Suffice it to say - I framed it while standing in a well ventilated area!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We do get the occasional game jersey in to be framed...apparently these are much more valuable than the standard memorabilia issue. Who would of guessed that sweat and grime are valuable?????
 
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