Wizard blade cartridge wear

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Steph

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We were discussing this in chat a month or so ago, about the wear on blade cartridges. I have had to replace mine 3-4 times a year. Now others have said that they are still on their first one even after a couple of years. What I am wondering is if there is an adjustment or maintenance I need to take care of on my 8000 that is causing quicker wear?

Is this normal for my having to change them this often? Or does it vary by machine?
 
My framer was just telling me the other day that ours needs to be replaced because of wear. Id this common? DO I just call wizard and they ship me one or do they sell them?
 
Just ordered 5.

DTWDSM said:
My framer was just telling me the other day that ours needs to be replaced because of wear. Id this common? DO I just call wizard and they ship me one or do they sell them?
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Tim,

I just ordered 5 they cost me about $6 each with shipping. I ordered them from Wizard and they sent them right out. I haven't worn out the 2 I recieved with my machine but since the blades are steel and the holders are a plastic they do wear out.

Mike
 
I found out the hard way that when they do take on excessive wear, you get swoops and overcuts, especially on 8-ply mats.

Like blades, these blade cartridges are cheap. Are you willing to spend an extra $50/year to ensure that your mats come out perfectly each and every time? I am.
 
Blades

What I do to to make them last is that I have one for square cutting and one I keep for oval etc. I find that you can have a little play in the square cutting but that a tight fit is better for ovals or circles. I find that I get more use from them this way.
 
My Wiz 8000 is mounted at the most extreme angle recommended ...alright maybe even a degree or two more than recommended. I am using the wall mount bracket but also have a couple thin strips of wood jury rigged behind it too. Don't ask why ...I'm having a senior moment and can't remember back to October of last year when I installed it.

I was experiencing problems with narrow border mats (1 3/4") both while allowing the Wiz to cut the outside or with the outside pre-sized. The bottom edge was not cutting through on both the bevel or the outside cut. The three other sides cut fine. Wiz tech support said the problem was most likely a worn blade holder. Haven't had the chance to check it out yet but I do remember others with the same problem but couldn't find the thread and don't think anyone had a solution. This could be the fix.
 
I was wondering this myself. It seems to me that the latest batch seem to wear faster. This could also be from doing more 8 plys but I notice play with in a weeks usage. I wonder if the last batch is a softer plastic? I also wonder if there is a way to get a harder metal part? Or even a metal edge where the blade wears the cartrage.
 
Dave said:
I was experiencing problems with narrow border mats (1 3/4") both while allowing the Wiz to cut the outside or with the outside pre-sized. The bottom edge was not cutting through on both the bevel or the outside cut. The three other sides cut fine.
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I had this problem for the first time last night. Except I cut the mats stacked (pre-sized) and the first mat (top) cut through just fine. It was always the second mat (bottom) that did not cut through. Finished the cut by hand with a new manual cutter blade.

I totally missed this thread until I used the search. I don't recall ever being informed that the holder would wear out. I guess I'd better order a pack ASAP.

Once again, Grumblers to the rescue!!!

Thanks,
 
Machinist?

I have a Wizard 8500e (about 6 months old) and it has been holding up pretty good so far. After reading all the comments about wear and tear on the blade holder for the Wizard 8000 i brought one of mine to a machinist i have been knowing for a few years (his wife is a customer - mostly needlework) and told him of the situation. He told me when i have one that is worn and i can no longer use it he might be able to cut two tiny grooves in the area the blade rests and add two tempered steel inserts only about 1/128" x 3/16" x 1" (he uses decimals) for about 50 bucks, but it should outlive the life of the equipment. Check with a machinist in your area for more info on this possibility with a Wizard 8000 blade holder. Good luck.... :thumbsup:
 
blade holder wear

try placing the blade in with the "dull" square end first then lay the blade down. sounds silly but it wears down slower than sliding the blade in length ways. circles and arcs will wear it out faster too
 
I find that 8 plys wear them down faster then anything else.
 
surferbill said:
I go through one a month, and I buy them in 5 packs.
They seem a little too quick to wear out. IMHO
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I'm at about the same rate.

I cut a lot of 8ply mats. I'm sure that has a lot to do w it. The people who are still using their same one are obviously not too concerned with accuracy of the blade depth or how good the corners look.

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xenniferx said:
I'm at about the same rate.

I cut a lot of 8ply mats. I'm sure that has a lot to do w it. The people who are still using their same one are obviously not too concerned with accuracy of the blade depth or how good the corners look.

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That's a very snotty comment.....sheesh.

Getting back on topic, I cut a fair amount of 8 plys and maybe that does explain why I go through them more quickly. I was hoping someone from Wizard might have a comment...I'll give them a call.
 
Thank you for the reminder, people. My cartridge was a bit worn and iInow have a new one in the machine and a spare hanging alongside it. I am sure there is a reason why they are not made of sturdier material but cannot remember what it is. (Is it to do with cartridges being cheaper than the block they slide into??) Anyway, at $5 odd a throw they are not worth stressing over.

Just one tip, if you change your cartridge check all your configurations before cutting anything important/expensive as they may need tweaking.
 
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