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Donmar Creations

Wizard 8000/9000

Umi

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Hi Folks,

Quick question: would you advise on getting Wizard machine as a startup or is it better to get a manual mat cutter for the beginning and upgrade it later? Any thoughts will be appreciated.

Thank you,
 

Jim Miller

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There's merit to understanding how a manual matcutter works, and it would have uses other than cutting mat windows , but a computerized mat cutter (CMC) would improve your matting capabilities & efficiency from day one.

Why Wizard? I suggest you consider at least Valiani and Gunnar, as well.
 

Umi

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Thank you for sharing your thoughts! And i will check the brands out.
 

Umi

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There's merit to understanding how a manual matcutter works, and it would have uses other than cutting mat windows , but a computerized mat cutter (CMC) would improve your matting capabilities & efficiency from day one.

Why Wizard? I suggest you consider at least Valiani and Gunnar, as well.
One more question: which of these machines would be the best space-saver?
 

Joe B

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Every CMC will take up about equal space. I have a Valiani and I have the cutting table positioned at an angle so it doesn't take up as much space as a cutting table that is flat. I do believe that Wizard & Gunner can also be adjusted at an angle. Like Jim said, check out Valiani & Gunnar. I did a lot a research and found that the Valiani fit the bill perfectly for me and since I have had the Valiani, I have had no problems, that's over 6 years now and all other framers that I know that own a Valiani says the same, zero problems.
 
Vermont Hardwoods solid wood picture frame molding

Umi

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Every CMC will take up about equal space. I have a Valiani and I have the cutting table positioned at an angle so it doesn't take up as much space as a cutting table that is flat. I do believe that Wizard & Gunner can also be adjusted at an angle. Like Jim said, check out Valiani & Gunnar. I did a lot a research and found that the Valiani fit the bill perfectly for me and since I have had the Valiani, I have had no problems, that's over 6 years now and all other framers that I know that own a Valiani says the same, zero problems.
Thanks for the feedback. What model Valiani do you have?
 

Joe B

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Mat Pro CMC 150 - iX

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alacrity8

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I would say that it depends on how much business you expect, and whether you are experienced with a CMC or a Manual Mat Cutter.

CMCs are a large investment, but they are also a a time saver.
In my opinion, it is easier to learn how to use a CMC, than a manual mat cutter.
It is much easier to cut a special design with a CMC.

Most manual mat cutters take up less space than CMCs.
 

JWB9999999

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Wizard has a lease program as well, which can be a big advantage when cash is tight. However, I second the opinion that you don't really have to have a CMC to open your business, and there is merit to learning to do it on a manual mat cutter. Plus manual ones are much less expensive.

John
 
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