Opinions Wanted Which Mat Cutter to choose

Astrobirder

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Hello all,

I'm a newbie here and a newbie to cutting mats. I've been researching mat cutters for WAY to long, and think I have it narrowed down to two choices, but wanted your much more experienced opinions before I make the plunge. I've read almost every thread on this board about choosing a mat cutter and they've helped, but I notice that most of those threads are 2 or more years old, hence my decision to repost this familiar newbie topic! :icon21:

First, a bit about the application. I'm not looking to open a framing store, but do have about 50 mats to cut right now, with more anticipated each year. I'm an advanced hobby photographer and my wife is a fine artist, so we have many photos and artwork to mat. Most of these works are smaller than 16"x20". Several of my photos and my wife's artworks are not standard sizes, so the interior mat cuts need to be custom. I'll also need to cut down foam core and mat board to size, so having one machine that does both would be a plus. I don't think I'm going to make my own frames at this time, but am considering cutting my own glass.

The two choices I'm considering: a new Alto 4590, which I saw demoed a year ago at a hobby show, or a used Fletcher 2100/2200.

I understand the "chevy vs. ford" issues in preferences, but the one thing I notice was that almost no one mentions Alto cutters here, and the 4590 in particular only has 1 mention. Does no one in the professional ranks use the 4590 or are the other choices just that much better?

I've seen the demo movies of Esterly, and they look nice, but they are beyond my budget (<$1000). Phaedra appears to have recently gone out of business. I haven't looked a lot at C&H, other than to read the opinions expressed here in other threads. The low end Logans that I've been able to examine don't appear to be particularly rugged. The engineer in me would LOVE a CMC, but that's just not reasonable for my limited application--and I can take my CMC needs to a local frame shop for the times I need that capability (they have a Wizard 5000).

So, what are the opinions of those here in 2010? Fletcher? Alto? or something I haven't considered?

Thank you in advance for your time and opinion!

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It's being sold for 495.00

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C + H advantage pro is on special at M&M Distributors in New Jersey.

It's being sold for 495.00

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This is the mat cutter I used for years and if I hadn't just closed up my shop, I would still be using it. It was tried and true for me. I did haev a Fletcher 2100 and while I'm sure they are great machines, I just stuck with the C&H (though that was mostly because I already knew it's few idiosyncrasies). Either way, both machines would serve you well and would last a long time with proper maintenance.
 
We have sold the Alto cutter in our store now for 33 years. Ton of happy users.
Best bang for your buck. (but you still will need a cutter to cut your Blanks)
We used it in our shop here for the first 19 years. I could cut perfect mats on it and it is fast. One time I had to cut 400 20x24 mats got it down to15 seconds a mat. Cut multi opening, v grooves, inlaid mats, it will even cuts a 40 x 60 mat. You name it we cut it on the Alto.
Only down side of the Alto's is that you can not cut your blanks (the out side dimensions of your board) on it.

Most shops want the bells and whistles of a cutter like you mentioned above. It is good for the price.
 
I just got my C & H, have had it now for about a month. I love it, but like everything else it takes some getting used to. I used a Logan for up till last week with no issues. Cut around 10-25 mats a week and it never failed. Only broke one part and that was my own stupid fault, dropped something off the shelf overhead. I would look into the C & H on M&M. Great deal, thats where I got mine.
 
Prowl Ebay for a Fletcher IMHO......Love mine,considering being buried with it ;)..........Got a NEW(as in sealed in box) one for $734. Chunk of change, but half the usual cost.Stops were in the box as well! Paid for it with one painting I sold a week later.Course you could get a good used matcutter from a # of manufacturers from www.pictureframingequipment.com he`s a member here as well. L.
 
C&H, C&H....

I purchased my first 40" C&H :thumbsup: in 1986. I needed a larger matcutter so i purchased a 60" C&H 1996. I use both and they still work like a charm. I use the 40" the most and thoroughly clean it every week... the 60" about once a month.
 
Rider----
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#2--get a 60" one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, you CAN take a 40" apart/move it so that you can cut 25 more inches(& hope/pray that the cut is good or that the 'join' will buff out ok) and then put it all back together again(probably only take an extra hour or so(if you are in practice)...... just go ahead and get the long one---save yourself a lot of time/energy(not money, unfortunately, as the long one will cost you extra)
 
For the price that C&H is a steal! Fletcher is great, love mine, but I do have fond memories of the C&H....

You'll want the squaring arm for cutting mats down to size.
 
Save the money - go Alto. I had a 4500 - great for window opening - maybe not best for the v-grooves. If you get a drywall t-square to cut boards to size, and just cut openinings (no v-grooves) this is the way to go! It'll cut any size mat - yes even 48" x 96".

Its faster than the production ones - easier to set borders quickly (unless you have a top mat of 3 1/16 which it can't do easily) and using it on one-offs is quicker because you don't have to set stops in advance (& no drawing of lines either)

If you are doing multiples of the same mat at the same settings, pro units with stops will be a tad faster.

All the best

Let us know what you decide
 
Fletcher - I started with the 2100 48" needed a larger cutter so got the 2200 60". Hardly use either anymore since the CMC, but did use them for years without a single problem. I started off with Logan and for a very short time had an Alto but graduated to a Fletcher. If you want a cutter that is going to do it all and last for a long time, purchase a Fletcher, C&H, Kleencut or another of the professional models. Joe B
 
Thank you everyone for your opinions. Yesterday I found a very well cared for Fletcher 2100, with many accessories only 100 miles from my home, so it is now sitting in my living room! The former owner was very kind and even helped me cut a double mat as a demonstration before I purchased the unit!

I expect I'll be back on the grumble as I start down the learning path!
 
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