Which is preferred hardware for large frame package?

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Rozmataz

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I am working on a relatively large piece (32 x 39) in a large moulding.

I am looking at the hardware and am wondering which of these you prefer?

Wall Buddies?

"Super Steel" hangers?

Double Screw strap hanger? (and do you position this on an angle?)

Other?

Thanks,

Roz

Also, at what size do you recommend Plexi rather than glass?
 
For Less, it's mirror hangers (strap) or Super Steels, depending on the frame. With the mirror hangers, Less would match the angle of the wire. After reading about the stress on a frames caused by insufficient wire angle, Less now leaves as much slack as he can. It really makes a difference.

Less would use glass.

[ 08-21-2003, 06:02 PM: Message edited by: lessafinger ]
 
Wallbuddies. No question my mind about that.

That size is on the line where I start thinking about Acrylic, but I stock 36x48 UV glass, so I must use it, huh?

[ 08-21-2003, 06:08 PM: Message edited by: Ron Eggers ]
 
Ron - I knew you would vote for wall buddies - my first choice as well... But isn't it funny about the choice of glass at that size - and they make all the large pieces that I have used as well (don't like working with it, but use it)...

Is there anything on this topic in FACTS?

Thanks, Roz

PS I have been SO BUSY I haven't had time to be online (plus I got that nasty worm last week - all fixed and protected now!)
 
Another positive vote for WallBuddies. And, if your frame is quite heavy and strong enough to hold the weight, I would opt for conservation (or regular) glass over plexi. With the WallBuddies hanging system, once that package is on the wall, it would take an earthquake to move it!

(Roz, you don't have too many earthquakes in NY, do you??)

Framerguy
 
WallBuddies

Glass

-Mike.
 
Framerguy...speaking of Earthquakes, that's what worries me about using Wallbuddies on large framed packages.
I've been through a few quakes out here in California, and know that items on the wall with sawtooth-type hangers will fall off, but with a good hook and plenty of wire, it can ride through most quakes (if the wall is still standing, that is ;) )
 
Framerguy,

We have been known to have a few shakes here and there. One not too long ago. One (or at least the ones I felt) occurred right after I moved back to NY State from California!!! Couldn't believe it was happening. Centered in Quebec!! and reached to Western NY!!

Shake, rattle and roll!

Roz
 
i know this is odd...but ny has the most fault lines in the us, however they are inactive. whils cali has less they are active.

i would go for four hole strap hangers and conservation plexi.

de
 
Randy,

I can understand that a sawtooth hanger could easily jump off a picture frame hanger and fall in an earth tremor. But I wonder how stable it would be if you put 2 sawtooth hangers on at each top corner?? It seems like a single sawtooth would swing back and forth in a quake until it simply came off the hanger and fell.

And I can see how a wire would give quite a bit and stay put on a frame hanger when the frame package moved as in an earthquake also.

I have no scientific proof or tests to back up my gut feeling about WallBuddies. I just think that, because of their opposing construction and the way they fit onto the special frame hangers that come with them, that they would be more stable. It seems like they would have to jump vertically at least a half inch and fall outward to clear the hangers and drop to the floor. On a heavy frame package that would require quite a bit of vertical force to lift maybe 15 or 20 lbs. straight up and outward to dislodge it. And, since I have only been in one minor tremor in my life, I probably don't have any concept of the power involved in a major earthquake.

On the other hand, if the quake was of major magnitude, the framed art that would be hanging on walls would probably be the least of the homeowner's worries.

Framerguy

[ 08-21-2003, 10:36 PM: Message edited by: Framerguy ]
 
WallBuddies + glass, unless the frame is exceptionally heavy beyond the limits of the WallBuddies.
I would trust the WallBuddies in any quake I've been through. Rather, I trust the sawtooth hangers. I'm not sure the hook they recommend will hold up to a quake, but jeez, there's only so much you can do to prepare for chaos.

B.
 
If I were asked to maximize protection for an earthquake, I would use Z-bar. The convenient 4 inch spacing of the holes allows you to screw the wall piece to studs. The art will stay with the wall until the wall falls down. :D

Pat :D
 
Roz

I just installed some huge pieces in a bank lobby. Used WallBuddies for the first time and I'm "hooked". One of the pieces was 38" x 72" and I was able to hang it unassisted (I have very long arms). It is up there really solid and relatively flush against the wall as the client requested. I did use plexi which helped with the weight issue but the big WallBuddies will hold up to 60 lbs I think?!
 
Framerguy
Good point about the two points of hanging with the Wallbuddies. Yes it would have to go vertical quite a bit to drop off. Hadn't thought of it that way, Thanks.
 
Originally posted by Brian Lehr:

I'm not sure the hook they recommend will hold up to a quake, but jeez, there's only so much you can do to prepare for chaos.

B.
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If it's a heavier piece use screws with wall anchors instead of their hooks. And if you really want to tie it down use their new security system. It's easy.
 
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