I am starting to make my own frames and am curious about using a framing vise. I have a Fletcher 5600 V-Nailer. Does one need to use a vise if they have a V-Nailer? What is preferable? What methods are used if you have a V-Nailer? What about the new United sander? Is that a good investment? I am using a DeWalt miter saw for now that does good 45s. What is the proper method for using the sander? When do you turn it clockwise and when do you turn it counter clockwise? Any advise and thoughts appreciated. Thanks!
VISE OR NO VISE
- Thread starter Jason
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You'll need a good vise for those profiles that don't underpin well.
Turn the sanding wheel in the direction that will push the moulding leg into the fence and not away from it. One side of the leg will require a clockwise turn - the other, counter-clockwise.
Turn the sanding wheel in the direction that will push the moulding leg into the fence and not away from it. One side of the leg will require a clockwise turn - the other, counter-clockwise.
Baer Charlton
SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
If you have room.... a full set of 4 framing vices come in really handy.... along with a couple of Band Clamps [the nice $14 ones from Jorgensen... Lowes, HD etc].
I also keep some bottles of super glue [Med & Thick] in the fridge..[good for about a year].. the accellerant in nice.. but can **** up a finish faster than a freshman on a first date.
If you are working with LARGE frames.. a good, heavy duty 6" table vice is wonderfull when you need it.. don't ask, you'll just know.
V-nails were/are billed as the end-all, be-all... and if that was true, the suppliers would still be carrying vices...
vices also last for ever... unlike pnumatic otherthings.
I also keep some bottles of super glue [Med & Thick] in the fridge..[good for about a year].. the accellerant in nice.. but can **** up a finish faster than a freshman on a first date.
If you are working with LARGE frames.. a good, heavy duty 6" table vice is wonderfull when you need it.. don't ask, you'll just know.
V-nails were/are billed as the end-all, be-all... and if that was true, the suppliers would still be carrying vices...
vices also last for ever... unlike pnumatic otherthings.
Kevin W
Grumbler
Jayson,
Bought my underpinner last year but still use the vise every now and then, would not do this with out them, and the band clamps help a lot, of some of the big frame. Have been know to biscuit and band clamp very wide and thick frames.
KW
Bought my underpinner last year but still use the vise every now and then, would not do this with out them, and the band clamps help a lot, of some of the big frame. Have been know to biscuit and band clamp very wide and thick frames.
KW
Steven6095
SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I was a long time holdout on the vise (I have a Brevetti Underpinner and various straps)...trust me - GO OUT AND BUY A NICE VISE!
Framing Goddess
SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I have seven vises and they are constantly in use despite my tempermental Cassesse. I find it much easier to build in the vise first and then fasten on the underpinner.
Edie the howmanymoredays goddess
Edie the howmanymoredays goddess
Only seven vices, Edie? You're too modest.
Oh, you said vises. Never mind.
Oh, you said vises. Never mind.
Baer Charlton
SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Vice is nice 2.
A vice is a vise, but a vise is not a vice be it seven or one. Blame it on the English. Merry Christmas everyone.
Jody
True Grumbler
Can you please tell me the process when using all these vises? Are you 'just' glueing your miters and not nailing/pinning? In what situations are they coming in so very handy and perfectly? I have two - bought them from a shop what was going out of business. I do not use them - get along fine without them and am wondering what I am missing. Yep, I am sure this is a basic question - but please, enlighten me!
Thanks
Thanks
You need a vice. Ain't no getting around it except fer limiting your offerings to mouldings that will always come in perfect and will join easily in the pinner.
Also, Edie does it right! (and to answer Jody) The seam on wide or otherwise difficult mouldings including imperfect miters and slightly warped lengths will be much better if you first put the frame in a vice, let the glue set, then move it to the underpinner for finishing.
Also, Edie does it right! (and to answer Jody) The seam on wide or otherwise difficult mouldings including imperfect miters and slightly warped lengths will be much better if you first put the frame in a vice, let the glue set, then move it to the underpinner for finishing.