Vertical Vacuum Press?

Jim Miller

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On another thread someone lamented that a 40x60 vacuum press takes a lot of floor space. Yes, it sure does.

For several years I've been toying with the idea of building a vertical vacuum press, which would take up some wall space, but almost no floor space.

I have not taken this idea to the drawing board, but it seems pretty simple.

It could consist of two sheets of rubber or neoprene, perhaps 1/4" thick conveyor belt material, with a smaller piece of air-passage material of some thickness, perhaps fiberglass window screen, between them. Any heavy sheeting that is flexible, durable, airtight, smooth-surfaced, and hangs flat could work. Then there would have to be a vacuum pump, connected by tubes to ports in the corners of the top or bottom sheet, and a timer-switch.

The two heavy flexible sheets, with the screen between them, would be hung together on the wall from their top edges. For example, the top edges could be sandwiched between two lengths of 2" wide aluminum angle stock bolted together, and attached to the bottom of a 2x4 anchored horizontally to the wall. The sides and bottom edges of the sheets would be unattached, simply hanging straight down.

The vacuum ports could be most easily fitted into the top (outermost) sheet, but their tubes would have to dangle in front of the assembly, and flex every time the press is used. So, the ports should probably be fitted into the bottom sheet, the one flat against the wall, so the tubes could be stationary and out of the way. That would necessitate some sort of space under the sheet to accomodate the ports and still lay flat, so some sort of spacing structure would have to be built.

A heating blanket similar to what is used in other vacuum presses could be placed under the bottom sheet, which would require insulation between that and the wall.

A clamping mechanism might consist of three separate, full-length clamps overlapping the edges of the bottom and two sides. Woodworking stores sell cam-clamps that could be fitted on each end of each clamp. Very little pressure would be needed; just enough to hold the two sheets' edges together while the vacuum pump draws down. And draw-down time would be minimized because there would be almost no space between the sheets. The screen would assure overall vacuum pressure.

As I imagine it, the top (outermost) layer of flexible material would be lifted up by hand from its bottom edge and the mounting assembly simply slipped in between the sheets. Then the clamps would be engaged, and vacuum pump turned on.

The pressure of the two heavy sheets of rubber should hold the mounting assembly in place, especially if the sheeting material is heavy rubber, with a pad in the center of the bottom sheet to make it bubble out slightly.

If this works, it could be almost any size. And it might be cheap enough that a shop could have a couple of them hanging on the back room walls -- maybe a 36x48 press for routine use, plus a 60x120 press for big jobs. One vacuum pump and timer switch setup could be plugged into either of them.

Has anyone tried something like this?
 
Your'e reinventing the wheel Jim. My original design for the 32x44 heat/vacuum press that I sold to Seal was mounted to the wall with hinges that allowed you to fold the press up against the wall for out-of-the-way storage and flop it down when you wanted to mount something. My framer buddy Terry Way at Raven Frameworks here in Eugene (the new director of FACTS) has a table top hinged to the wall over his press allowing him to use the otherwize unusable space on the top of his press. When he need to mount something, he folds the table top up against the wall and starts mounting. Pretty slick!
 
sorry to be late.

Jim and Greg ;

I am sorry to be posting this so late, but actually i only saw the thread when I did a search of the ones I was involved in and used BUDDY as the criteria and Greg's "framer buddy" phrase brought this up. LOL

When I first started framing some 18 years ago I bought some used equipment from a framer that was going out of business. he had a Vacuum Press made for Photo emulsion Silk screening . It had the typical Glass front but the bed could rotate on a slotted set of cams to enable the fitting a a heat lamp over the glass top and it had a second glass bottom . It had a bi-pod leg formation of tubular steel and a rubber Bladder in the middle of the two glass sides and a CORD that was placed around the thing being pressd so as to allow suction on the thinest surface with out sucking the bladder flat and stopping the vacumm . It actually work just fine for YEARS until the rubber bladder dried and cracked . a replacement cost a couple of hundred dollars and required some skill to install so I obtained another used press that was larger ( 40X60 ) It could in deed draw a vacuum in a total vertical position with no difficulty . I don't remeber the Brand But I'll bet if you did a search of Serigraphical Equipment Suppliers you'd find it or others like it.

I am always amazed at the tools that are and cold be useful for framers that come from other Industries . I think we all have seen some applications of some crossovers that some one has capitalized on the introduction of . So maybe Jim you could be the INVENTOR ??? of the "VERTY PRESS" LOL and make big bucks and amaze all the other Framers.

BUDDY
 
Greg, I don't mean to reinvent the press...OK, maybe I do. But it wouldn't be as elaborate an assembly as what we use horizontally. That is, it would have almost no structural parts. Basically, I think it could function as simply two sheets of heavy, flexible material hanging on the wall, with vacuum ports attached. There would have to be some sort of sealing mechanism, but maybe that could be as simple as a foam-rubber spacer between the sheets.

I like the K.I.S.S. principle.

Speaking of reinventing things, Greg, I think I still owe you a drawing about that other project...I'll get back to it soon.
 
Just one curiosity question, right now with my horizontal vaccum press, gravity helps to keep the piece being mounted located on the piece it is being mounted to. If you stand that up, what's going to keep it in place. Might work as a heat press, but I think you might run into some problems if wet mounting... Unless there's something I'm missing... Either way, I do like the idea of a hinged press that folds up to the wall. Wish mine did, Maybe, I'll give that ole table/stand a redesign... Something to think about though...
 
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