Question Vertical hinges

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Scallywag

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I had to re- frame a piece another framer did. It was a photogram float mounted to rag board with P- 90 tape. The unusual thing about the hinges was that they were placed vertically on the top sides of the print. They looked fine and seemed to be holding fine so I am leaving that part alone. But, why? Is there any reason for orienting them vertically? I can only think that it must somehow minimize whatever blister or cockle might show from a horizontal hinge. Thoughts?
 
Maybe, for less tape to art contact or if doing a t-hinge there is more tape vertically to attach the horizontal t-portion onto the backing.
 
P-90 is 3/4 wide. If 3/4 was adequate to hold the print great. Large hinges can (wider or horizontal) be to much of a holding power & also restrict natural movement of the paper. In a case of the item being dropped you want the hinge to break rather than tearing the paper.
 
Susan May said:
Possibly an uneducated framer. Some people are put to work without any training at all.
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Please expand your thinking here. I'd love to hear why you feel that way and why you think something is wrong.

In other words, tell us all what is wrong, why it is wrong and how to do it right instead of merely posting a useless comment, as what you posted does little to nothing to answer the OP's question.
 
Not seeing the items that were higned, none of us can really give reasons for why another framer did what they did.

As for my comment, I just mean that some things are done out of ignorance. For example, many times customers would bring in artwork they had matted in their college art class, wanting to get a frame for their art. The artwork had hinging tape all the way around the artwork. When I asked why it was taped all the way around, they would tell me that their teacher did it that way so the artwork wouldn't have a gap between it and the mat. The teacher had never been informed about how to properly hinge artwork, and they were doing what they thought was correct.

Lack of education can be taught to the next generation.

So, as for the hinge being vertical instead of horrizontal, could have just been a case of an uneducated framer, doing what they thought was right. Also, while the tape is 3/4", you can cut it any length you want, so if they needed a small hinge they could have just cut it small.

But, remember, we are trying to answer this without actually seeing the size and weight of the art, or the size of the mat around the art. Blindly answering if this is correct or incorrect hinging tehnique (or was at the time it was framed) would be stupid.

I am sorry if my earlier post made it sound like I thought that a vertical hinge was never an option. I was just trying to give a reason for why someone would do a mount that a trained framer might question.
 
I usually always hinge vertically with minimal (usually 1/4") of adhesion to the paper. If I need more attachment for heavier works I use a wider hinge and sometimes even a third hinge with loose hinges on the lower sides to restrict movement of the art.

I guess I've been doing things wrong for the last 40-50 years.

Mostly I use edge strips now instead of hinging.
 
I just re-read the original post... do you mean the hinges were placed along the sides of the print and not on the top to each side?

That would 'splain some of the confusion here.
 
I have read the original post numerous times to determine what I am missing. T hinges are created by using one strip of hinge in the vertical orientation and a cross piece at the top designating the "T" in T Hinge.

There have been a bunch of confusing replies so I wonder how am I reading this question wrong.
 
My interpretation is that the hinges are "sideways" near the top along the left and right edges.
:kaffeetrinker_2: Rick
 
If Horizontal had been stated that could be one guess Rick but since it said vertical I was wondering where all of these responses were coming from.
 
Sorry, didn't realize there were so many replies here.... The hinges were "sideways" at the top of the print on the left and right sides. I often put sideways hinges towards the bottom of a piece if it is very large, but never at the top. And to clarify it was floating (no top mat). Also, the framer was quite a reputable one, so I thought maybe they were a little ahead of me in their thinking.
 
Scallywag said:
The hinges were "sideways" at the top of the print on the left and right sides. I often put sideways hinges towards the bottom of a piece if it is very large, but never at the top. And to clarify it was floating (no top mat)
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This post just does not make any sense to me???
How about a photo?
 
A lot of people (mostly ones who have been to art classes :icon11:) have the idea that taping all round will 'stretch' the paper and stop it going wavy. In actuality it is a sure-fire way of making the thing go wavy. Same with adding T-hinges on more than one side. Although the art student's idea of hinging is generally just a tab applied to the back of the mat.
 
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