v nailers and frame joiners

New Albany Framer

CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
Feb 15, 2006
New Albany Indiana
I am a framing hobbyist. I recently purchased a Logan Pro Joiner, and I have been unable to get it to work properly. All of the frames have gaps in them, and some of the v nails do not go in all of the way. In addition, although the v nailer is supposed to be able to join two v nails at one time, it only joins one at a time. Is there anyone out there that has had experience with this v nailer. I am toying with the idea of getting a Cassese entry level foot powered mechanical v nailer or a inmes foot operated v nailer. I am also considering the possibility of purchasing one of the entry level pneumatic v nailers. Does anyone have a suggestion as to the best route to take?
Sorry you are having problems with it. Granted it is not the best equipment, but it should do as advertised. Try to call Logan.

An entry level pneumatic would be best for you. Look into used ones!
These things are built like tanks.
Hi Mark,
Have you checked out my reply to your post on the PFM forum.

Sell the Logan on ebay as fast as you can, they are fine for 8 x 10's, you can glue corners and place in a vise for 15 to 30 mins and then put the vnails in to prevent gaps, but be careful because if corners not held firm the nailer might break them apart, Have seen and setup an older Pistorius foot operated vnail machine for a shop, its nice, just takes a little time to add the nails. Yes it does have enough power to drive the nails in by foot. I have a Cassese 89, and its been great, now from time to time I still have to glue and vise some corners on large frames, and some small frames just depends if it don’t look good in the machine before I nail. Have not seen the INMES up close, but the price is not bad, but I purchase a used Cassese 89 for about the same price as the Inmes IM-3p, the Cassese has an adjustable fence. But either way, will need a table to put your frame sides on while nailing, trying to balance the sides and nail is not fun, build a table, or adapt the nailer to a table.

Call me old fashioned, maybe even reactionary, but I think all framers, and certainly all hobbyists, should have a traditional caste-iron vise like the Stanley.

Sure, you'll be filling nail holes, just like framers did a very long time before underpinners, but you will get reliable corners (as long as they are cut well) on virtually any profile you'll encounter.

(For the record, I have a Cassesse underpinner and at least five vises. Also, several vices.)
Originally posted by Ron Eggers:
Call me old fashioned, maybe even reactionary, but I think all framers, and certainly all hobbyists, should have a traditional caste-iron vice like the Stanley.

I couldn't agree more, Ron!

This is how we joined that 108 x 58 frame for the huge flag I mentioned in another thread.

No underpinner would have handled this kind of behemoth of a frame!
I also have a v-nailer, but I still use the vises first to glue, and some mouldings don't use the v-nailer at all...unless the V-Nail stands for Valorie Nailing.(yep,Ron, I'm old-fashined too, and glad to be - it works!!) That's how I did it for many years, the v-nailer is new to me this time around, it came with the shop.I'm glad to have it, but still need the vises.(still working on the vices!) Guess what I got for Valentines day? 2 new vises!(They don't meke 'em like they used to!) I have 6 now. Can have 3 frames at a time setting up and waiting to be v-nailed. Wouldn't be without them.