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Unconventional Request

Stephen Enggass

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I had a client ask me today if they could do a traditional mat set-up (window) but mount it into a floater frame with no glass. I’ve never seen this approach. I’m sure it could be done but I’ve just never seen it. Thoughts?
 

Larry Peterson

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Run, don't walk......................away.

Mat will get dirty over time.
 

Stephen Enggass

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Yeah. I told her we would need glass... I just wanted to mention it here as I’d never seen it before.
 

Ylva

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Glass and a floater frame are not working either, you will have to add another frame to the floater frame.

I like building up floater frames with regular frames, stacking with a fillet works nicely as well.

What is her reason for the mat and floater frame combination? Maybe she would like a more interesting design, which you can achieve with stacking frames
 

bruce papier

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You could do it by mounting the artwork and mat to a piece of black gatorfoam or similar substrate and put a set of strainers on the back, but the mat is going to have to be really tightly glued to the substrate or stuff going to separate. And what Larry said.
 
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framah

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...and how would you hold the glass in the floater frame?

..As Nancy used to say, "Just say no."
 

Stephen Enggass

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I would not be using floater... she had asked for that but I said it would not work as we needed glass. Building up would be one option...
 

David Hewitt

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We have done a lot of art in floater frames without glass. (oil on canvas for example) Fabric, leather, suede, even formica has lots of design and color options to be used as backgrounds. As said, the elements can affect it, use riged moisture resistant materials. Think of it as if it were a piece of furniture. The item shown is mat made out of Formica, and is about 30 years old. 956EDE18-8917-4695-97E8-EDBA88B3129D.jpeg
 

shayla

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What medium is being framed? Is it on paper?
 
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