Throwing ideas around

AuzzieMatt

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Ok... as photographer entering the world of framing my mind is streaming with ideas.

I hope as a beginner there isnt such as thing as a stupid question but here I go.

Has anyone thought about mounting photographic prints on Glass. It is Ph neutral, and flat and inexpensive. The weight would be equal to using MDF or Aluminum. I know there is the issue of it breaking but this could be over come (reduced) with providing a self adhesive foam core backing to the glass the print it mounted to.

All of my work is panoramic prints, printed on Kodak metallic or Fuji Chrystal Archival papers all my Ilfochrome prints are mounted by the printers.

One last question... what is the standard thickness of glass used in framing. 2mm or 3mm? I have 40 inch prints framed with 3mm. But my 30 inch prints framed has 2mm.

Cheers

Matt
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Ron Eggers

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Matt, I think glass would have at least three shortcomings as a mounting substrate: </font>
  1. Not much will stick to it - at least, not much that you'd also want stuck to your photograph.</font>
  2. If it breaks - and it does all the time - it's going to take the photo with it.</font>
  3. It's relatively heavy.</font>
Most of the glass we use here is in the 2-2.5 mm range. That's a guess, since most of us have no idea what a mm is.

Are the photos you're wanting to mount primarily resin-coated or fiber-based papers? Glossy or matte finish? What kind of size range?

There's a reason I'm asking. I just hope I can remember what it is later.

P.S. I HAVE seen stupid questions on The Grumble but, so far, not from you.
 

framah

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I had a photographer bring in some photos reverse mounted (mounted onto the back of the plexi) onto 1/2" plexi with the edges polished.. they looked really good. They were abstract pieces but it was an interesting way to display photos.
 

framanista

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I’ve noticed that stuff will stick to the etched side of reflection control glass (with starch paste). But I wouldn't use a substrate as brittle and heavy as glass.

I’ve seen photos mounted on the backside of acrylic too. It was beautiful, in a clean, polished, minimalist kind of way. Does anyone know how that’s done?
 

Ruth

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Originally posted by framanista:
I’ve noticed that stuff will stick to the etched side of reflection control glass (with starch paste). But I wouldn't use a substrate as brittle and heavy as glass.

I’ve seen photos mounted on the backside of acrylic too. It was beautiful, in a clean, polished, minimalist kind of way. Does anyone know how that’s done?
Once upon a time (back in the 80's) I worked in a photo lab and we did this. We used an optical adhesive by MacTac on a roller machine. Usually they were transparencies or duratrans mounted emulsion to the plex.
 

Reynard

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you used to get photographs printed on glass.I am pretty sure I have framed up some of these over the years.They would be hand coloured on the back of the glass by the photographer.
 

HannaFate

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I am attracted by the idea of having a backing as smooth and firm as glass, but the brittleness would worry me. I would be inclined to mount onto plexi, instead.

If you are mounting cibachrome, or other photos printed on polyester, you can just lay them on bare plexiglas, and they will lay flat. It's cool.

I guess the main consideration would be what's going to happen to the print after it is mounted.
 

Baer Charlton

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At one time it was very popular.... photos on glass.

They were Degera types, Civil War fame......

I'm right there with every other framers, we're in the business of replacing broken glass. . . .

That is why we buy whole boxes of the stuff.

baer
 

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I don't know Hanna, I heard that Ulys was very per-PLEXI on many a morning after..... :D
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Rebecca

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Daguerreotypes are on silver plated copper supports. Developed with mercury fumes so very toxic to make.

Ambrotypes were developed after daguerreotypes, and are essentially a glass plate negative backed with black paper or varnish, so that the image appears as a positive. They were usually cased, like daguerreotypes, for protection.

Tintypes (really black varnished iron) came next.

Rebecca
 
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