This is much tougher than the first time.

Framerguy

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I am sitting here watching the HIstory channel's anniversary program on the 9/11 disaster. It is called Countdown to Ground Zero and it is very tough to watch, much tougher than when it happened. I guess I know what the outcome will be and I am just so overcome with emotion watching this that I had to get away from it for awhile.

They are running the last minutes of some of the heros that didn't make it out of the Towers and it is so difficult for me to think about their last minutes and how they did such brave acts for others with no regard for their own safety. I hope that our young people realize the gravity and the importance of that day. It seems so easy to get past it and go on but they need to be aware of the necessity for living their lives the best they can and not fool around with wasted pursuits.

I think I may just go and take a walk on the beach now.

Framerguy
 
What really gets me is the lasting effects of 9/11, politically, psychologically to the psyche and outlook of the country, and physically to the people who were there and who did get out or just lived and worked in NYC, and breathed clouds of god-only-knows-what and are now suffering from "WTC Cough" and more. The effects of this event are just so persistent.
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Rick
 
Amen.

A soldiers funeral procession went by the store today out to the cemetary. Every car had a flag, the people in the cars had flags, the police escort had flags.

He was a young man in his 20's. He died of injuries during a bombing in Iraq about 2 weeks ago.

While the procession was passing by, a police officer stopped to pick up the rush frame job for the police memorial wall. One of their newest officers, again a young man in his 20's - on the force for just a few months. He was killed by a young woman who hit his car in an intersection. She was going 85 in a 30 MPH zone, had gotten out of prison just 10 days ago, and was bombed out of her gourd.

Sometimes we need to be reminded the price for the freedom we enjoy is paid most dearly by people we have never met.
 
I really don't think I can watch it FramerGuy.

I was about 200 yards from World Trade Center when it happened and watching it happen at that moment was very traumatizing.

Up to this day, my heart aches when I hear a low flying airplane.
 
I seriously think it will take our generation and the nexts passing for this country to "move passed it".
I still don't like talking about it.
 
I remember that pain vividly too. Started crying uncontrollably and upsetting daughter who was way too fragile to be upset at that point. Couldn't help myself, though I should have. My mom still has difficulty going through the Lincoln Tunnel.

The only "good" I can think of coming from that event is that it can give us some empathy and insight into the lives and psyches of those in other areas of the world, and even in our own past, who have experienced or are experiencing similar traumas.

Hugs to us all. :(

Rebecca
 
What irate me is how many democrats took the opportunity to twist facts, invent facts and scenarios for the sole purpose of attacking the president on this very ground. Apparently, some 30% of all Americans came to believe that 9/11 is government’s criminal doing and, of course, their sick opinions are being translated and amplified throughout the world by hateful Muslims and jealous Europeans. It hurts me to be living for many months in Europe and breathing so much hostility towards America and equally much sympathy and coward ness in face of those terrorist organizations named Hamas, Hezballah or Al-qaida. This is the other facet of 9/11 drama.
I was and still am in a vengeful mode ever since 9/11 and this mood/sentiment is so consuming and degrading in every respect that it really shortens my life.
 
Cornell, please don't take over this thread as an excuse to bash political beliefs. The events around 9/11 were terrible and are everlasting, just as Pearl Harbor were to our Parents and Grandparents. Like Baer said it will take a couple of generations to "get past it", but hopefully we won't forget the lessons.

As a Democrat, a patriotic Democrat at that, I am really biting my tongue not to give you a good lashing, but the thread was started to express grief, not be a(nother) political diatribe we tend to get onto. (I hope!
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I support Bob one hundred percent on this!

I am having difficulty watching a lot of these programs. They bring back some wrenching memories.

One of the shows I was able to get through was the segment on the air traffic controllers. I am astounded how throughout North America they were able to get some 2400 planes safely on the ground within three hours.

With all the confusion occurring everywhere, with the uncertainty that we all felt, and with absolutely no precedent for this horror, the air traffic controllers from Newfoundland to Cleveland to Anchorage worked in concert to make sure that thousands of people reached an airport safely. It was a logistical nightmare to which they proved their mastery.

They made me proud as did so many others.

God bless them all!
 
My friend, Capt.Pat Brown NYFD, was killed in the towers.

A couple of months ago they found 3 coins from the rubble with his DNA on it according to the NY newspapers. That's all his family has left of him...so how much does democrat or republican, red or blue states or any of that meaningless stuff really mean to them.

RIP Pat

Joel
 
Originally posted by Paul N:

I was about 200 yards from World Trade Center when it happened and watching it happen at that moment was very traumatizing.

Up to this day, my heart aches when I hear a low flying airplane.
what's the rest of your story - how did you happen to be there?

As stated, this is one of those moments in time where we will always remember where we were. (I still remember when JFK was shot and I was 6 yrs old.)My brother was flying and was one of the many planes grounded that day. I also how we learn from all the courageous and selfless acts of kindness shown all over our country, Canada,and elsewhere helping strangers.

Lest we, and future generations, not forget... and learn...
 
Thank you. That was definitely NOT my intention in starting this thread. I had no real intention, just wanted to pass on some pent up feelings that I have carried for the past 5 years.

For the sake of one word, I hope unintentionally used by Cornel, this COULD be derailed, so I would hope that y'all could give the benefit of the doubt to Cornel unless he proves otherwise that he could have used the word "people" to accomplish the feelings intimated in his post.

I don't remember any single event including the Kennedy assassination that has had such a profound impact on my world. I can still recall the physical stance that I was in and the circumstances of the moment when I first heard about John F. Kennedy being shot. I didn't believe that anything could ever be as terrible as to have our nation's leader killed on national TV until this unbelieveable terrorist assault on the Twin Towers. I sit here in tears now at the thought of what impact this will have on the history of the world and on our children.

So much has been forever altered in the past 5 years. There are people who are terrified of flying now that flew frequently before the tragedy. I have heard of people who have quit their jobs in fear of working in the upper reaches of a high rise building. People are asked to partially disrobe in airports. We are constantly scanned with machines that will detect such things as weapons and explosives.

I am not condemning these actions, I am simply making a point that life as we know it is forever altered drastically as a result of 9/11. Our children may never experience the freedom of living in this wonderful country as we have in the past. And I wonder how many of us have taken some of those freedoms for granted until we lost them. I am not talking about freedoms extended to us by the founding fathers of this nation. I am talking about little freedoms, those that made life just a little bit more enjoyable.

Use this thread to voice your feelings about how your life has changed, what you felt when you saw something being broadcast live as it was happening that you never in your life imagined could occur in our beautiful country, just don't start bashing groups or trashing those who may not agree with your opinion or viewpoints on this issue.

For some of us there may never be closure and I can't imagine how those who were directly involved in the disaster or who lost loved ones could ever come to grips with it.

FGII
 
To All,

I meant no disrespect to Cornell, I just wanted to derail the hate and anger that was spewing in the "other" thread, (mine comments there included!). I do get involved in those types of threads, I don't have Ron's self control! I think, Ron, if I had more than 15K reposts that you all would lose all respect for my political beliefs, instead of the respect we have for your comments.

I remember driving to work "that" morning. It coincidentally was the first day that my wife an I actually owned the business. I had to pull over and just sat there thinking "oh my god". When I got in the radio was on all day, and I brought a TV in the next day.

Business tanked and the general mood around town was of deep dispare, and those feelings are still there under the surface. (Yes even for me!
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I can't watch the History channel as I have no cable, or satelite, but I can appreciate the feelings that this show will bring up in others.

Cornell, again the comments were not solely meant for you, just trying to nip the bud. Meet you in the "other" post if you want to continue talking politics! Let's express feelings and emotions here, and politics there!
 
I had just moved into my new location and we were having my Ribbon Cutting the morning of 9/11.

We were not watching TV, we were preparing everything for the event.

With every guest that came in, there was a new report of something terrible!

By the end of the hour we were all huddeled around a radio waiting on details.
Within 2 hours we had to move in a TV, That's when we really understood what was happening.

I left and picked my children up from school and just hugged them! I don't think anyone in America with any heart will ever be the same!
 
I just returned from 4 days in NYC and it is still a strange feeling. Oddly, I was in framing class in Connecticut that fateful day/week - miles from home with the memories of being 90 miles away from it. Paul N, I can't imagine having been that close. I still get chills and haven't watched any of the programs on it. Probably will at some point.

As we were driving into NYC this past Sat a.m. it was a clear, warm and blue sky day - and I could only think back to 9/11 with the same conditions. Once in NYC I got caught up in the hustle/bustle of the city, but as sirens roared near us, my heart skipped a beat. But all was routine - thank the Good Lord. Then on Tues while at Javits Convention Center, around 4 pm someone came up to a group of us and said that NY was in a lock down - no entry/no exit. My heart just stopped for a moment. And then I said to myself - if this is true, I will do what I have to do. As it turned out - it was a hoax, thankfully. But it is always on my mind when I am there or see anything on tv.

Life as we know it changed forever that day.

Roz
 
Ok, I thought that I didn't imply every democrat in my judgment. Sorry if it sounded otherwise. Perhaps better words would be "michaelmoores" or "fahrenheits".
More important than the D word was that I just returned from a sick world outside US where ordinary people are educated by left wing intellectuals, media and political parties/personalities to hate America and, in return, condone or sympathize with the terrorists, out of a perverted sense of morals. That's what blows my top. World led by Jewish conspiracy theories, moorish views and Americans supporting those views are being today’s mantra and powerful motivators for more of the same hate, killings and destruction from Indonesia to Paris. Europeans are US allies at secret service level, much less so at military level, and appears to be rather enemies at streets' level. And this rupture is politically induced, which is the bad news I am bringing to you. When not taken over by fascism and communism, Europeans are excessively liberal and always on the verge of tipping to the enemy’s camp. But this is a poisonous topic that does not belong here, although it affects everybody's private life.
I need to say that I didn't mean all Europeans, but enough many, or too many in this case.
 
I don't want to turn this thread into a political skirmish, but it sounds to me like you are of the mind that "either you are with 'us' or your are with 'the terrorists'." Where have we heard this rhetoric before? One does not have to believe and adhere to the rhetoric of this administration or its cohorts to be a thoughtful, sincere, and patriotic American. To believe that one does is, in itself, antidemocratic, and counter to the values on which this country was built.

Sorry for the interruption. Carry on.
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Rick
 
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