The Way it Used to be, but don't do it now.

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Baer Charlton

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For you newbies [less than 15 years in business], this is called "Scabbing".
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Yes that is lick and stick Butcher's Tape
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This is called.... measure kinda once.... and don't re-cut it... just fake it. This was down that whole side.
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The guy did go on to build a very successful multi store business that he sold off.... so maybe this is the way to do things.......

For you that are laughing your assets off because we had all been there. This was framed in 1978. Foam Core was brand new, and nothing came in 40x60.... I forgot to take a pic of the mat... which was a very nice splice... but I was afraid to peek at how it was held together... but I'm guessing butcher tape.

It's on a signed Ansel Adams poster....... I didn't even know he signed posters.
 
Ok I get the scabing part, what do you call the wire make up? We call it kite flying.
 
Baer,
What's so unusual about that? I often have customers bring in stuff like that..........are you saying that technique is not acceptable or something??? :icon9:
 
At least the wire is tied correctly.:faintthud:

I've been reframing a corporate collection over the past 3 years...a few pieces at a time. They were all framed sometime in the late 60's into the early 80's. Acceptable practices certainly have changed.
 
Sometimes the combo of glass, foamboard and mat were too thick to fit in the channel of a metal frame. When that happened, I wasn't above carving a channel in the foamboard to make it fit. That looks like what happened there. As for the wire, I have and still occasionally do tie my wire that way to support the bottom rail of a frame. It also looks like the rigging on my Hawaiian kite.
 
susang said:
Watch it Ormond, I heard that they can take that MCPF title away....!
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Wooooops, Susan, I didn't think anyone was listening to that comment! :icon9::icon9:
 
Bogframe said:
As for the wire, I have and still occasionally do tie my wire that way to support the bottom rail of a frame. It also looks like the rigging on my Hawaiian kite.
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The wire, where it goes through the side hangers, will crimp when hung thus giving zero support to the bottom. If you want to give support to the bottom use tiny pulleys attached to the side hangers or anywhere the wire is not tied off.
 
Fake, if you look in picture 3, you'd see that it cant move. When we refit it, we just adjusted the hangers up higher until the tension was restored to the support lines. [Even though they are redundant to the vertical lines.... which also were re tensioned.]

But your response begs the question: "do you stock little tiny pulleys in your shop?"

The only "block & tackle" we stock is the needlepoints we block and the weird jobs we tackle. :D
 
Deviating a bit but didn't have time to take a show-and-tell photo for y'all:

A vintage oil on board came in, framed with a mat, fillet, and glass. The client wanted to completely redo, so we removed the painting from its package....

The fillet was hot glued into the mat, and then subsequently hot glued onto the perimeter/front of the painting. Now, that's one way to make sure everything stays put!

Guess that framer was out of butcher tape.....
 
Baer Charlton said:
Fake, if you look in picture 3, you'd see that it cant move. When we refit it, we just adjusted the hangers up higher until the tension was restored to the support lines. [Even though they are redundant to the vertical lines.... which also were re tensioned.]

But your response begs the question: "do you stock little tiny pulleys in your shop?"

The only "block & tackle" we stock is the needlepoints we block and the weird jobs we tackle. :D
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Only for the 3 masted ship replicas we make for "Ship in a Bottle". All lines can run the sails and the yardarms. They are hand carved and way too small and delicate for the frame backs.

In pic 3 I could not tell if that was a shot of the side or the bottom. Are you saying you tie off the sides instead of letting the wire run loose?
 
Three things to say in response to that:
1. All the guys that used to do that nonsense were bending everyone's ears about their "certifications" and "industrial validations of proficiency".

These next two items have more pertinent ramifications:

There has always been a vague line between "guts" and "balls" .... here's the difference:

2. Guts: you come home after a night of drinking, meet your wife at the door (who happens to have a broom in her hand), and you ask her, "Are you still cleaning or are you flying somewhere?"

3. Balls: you come home late, reeking of booze and perfume, with lipstick all over your collar, you slap your wife on the butt, and say, "Yer next, fatty."
 
About 10 yrs ago a frame shop went out of business due to the owners death. His reputation was so known that everyone still can't believe he is gone. My mother had my senior picture framed there (conservation style). About a month ago she asked me to look at it and compare what I saw to the order slip she received when she picked it up. It stated that it has conservation reflection control glass, spacers, and an acid free backing board. Upon further investigating, I found out that there are no spacers and the glass is actually premium clear. I didn't dare open it up to see if it was archival or not, and plus I was afraid to find the usual roll of butchers tape holding everything in (like everything else that comes in here to be re-framed). I explained to my mother about what I saw and her response was " Oh well...that was years ago and I can't get my money back from the dead." I was speechless until I found out that my father was a good friend of his and that is how they talked to each other. But you would think, if he was a family friend, why would he scam my parents out of their money for the cheap stuff?? Oh well. But yeah, I get all his old items that the customers want a new frame, a new mat or the artwork put back in because it slipped out of the mat and mostly I just laugh because 10-20 years down the road something else will come out that is better and what I am doing (better than 10 yrs ago) and they will laugh at what I did. It just keeps going and going and going.
 
Baer Charlton said:
For you newbies [less than 15 years in business], this is called "Scabbing".
EScab04.jpg


Yes that is lick and stick Butcher's Tape
EScab05.jpg


This is called.... measure kinda once.... and don't re-cut it... just fake it. This was down that whole side.
EScab06.jpg


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They still do it now, they just call it the employee discount;)
 
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