After reading past threads and current ones, I have to comment on a concern. I have been a registered member of The Grumble for over a year and a guest before joining. The rude responses are escalating--I am a big girl and can take it. However, new grumblers have posted beginner questions and have been lambasted for asking . Yes, I think all professional framers should take courses and attend additional classes as I did and do, but it obviously takes years to learn all the correct terminology and processes. Please remember you were once a beginner as well. You did not become a "know it all" overnight, or maybe some of you think you did. Please be respectful of other grumblers' questions and comments.