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I found this text on the internet at a photograpers site. I thought you all might get a chuckle.


<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Framing Suggestions

First, all pictures should be matted. This is to separate the
photograph from the glass. If this is not done, the emulsion of the
photograph will stick to the glass. This looks unpleasant and ruins
the photograph. Thus, the standard consumer technique of sticking a
photo up against a glass desk frame or whatever should never be used
for art photos.

Second, I recommend using a professional framer. These companies pay
their employees $5-7/hour and they earn their living. It looks easy
to frame photos but it will take you at least one hour to do a decent
job, the worst part of which is cleaning the glass (if you must do it
yourself, I recommend Ajax cleanser in the bathtub; nothing else
really gets the glass factory grime off). If you purchase the same
kind of acid-free materials and pro-grade materials the frame shops
use, you'll find that it costs you almost as much as the total framing
price (I buy this stuff in bulk sometimes when I want to save time or
have control; it costs me $35 to pull everything together that a pro
frame shop uses in a $50 job). There are much easier and more fun
ways to save $15 than by trying to frame something yourself.

A maximum of 10% of the frame shops in any town will be competent.
The others will ruin photos by either incompetently dry mounting,
using other bad mounting techniques, using non-archival materials,
etc. Ask at a really expensive lithograph gallery to find out who
does their framing. Be very careful when any mounting technique other
than linen tape is proposed; it probably won't be reversible should
something go wrong. There is no law that says a photograph has to be
perfectly flat for display. Nonetheless, if you want it flat, dry
mounting onto Fome-Core isn't so bad when done by a super-professional
(less skilled shops do work that begins to separate after a year or
so, leaving unsightly bubbles).

Third, if you can't think of a really great color, go with a pure
(bright) white mat and a black metal frame. This is what I use. Not
only is it inexpensive, but multiple photos on the same wall share the
same presentation.

(In Boston, I recommend contacting Richard at Stanhope Framers in
Union Square, Somerville, at 666-2000. He might even give you the 20%
discount he gives me.)

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Interesting, but I am glad I am not Richard in Boston. When and if I give a discount, I would not want it announced for the whole world to see. I had an artist do this to me. He made a painting of a womans home and told her to ask me for "his" discount. I told him he didn't do me any favor as she already was a very good customer and would not have expected a discount.

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chuckle is an understatement.The person who wrote that is slightly moronic.

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Okay-show of hands,now. Which of you out there is in the 10% of competentcy, and so sorry for the other 90%. Can you believe this person? Why do artists and photographers seem to know more about this than the folks who do it every day. I think we need to start critiquing artist's work and photographer's efforts. Oh, wait a minute:they're trained professionals (?). Seriously, I think about 80-85% of all framers are all about equally skillful. About 5-10% do their work to less than standard because thats all their market requires with only maybe 5% that are clearly in a class by themselves. The problem is the rest of us in the other 95% all think we're the 5%
 
Now wait a minut Bob, I am in that 5%!
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(LOL)

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Sue May :)
"Everyone is born right-handed, only the greatest can over come it!"
 
Is it the time of day, stage of my life, or a new moon? I'm missing Bob's point: I thought the photog was actually acquiescing to the knowledge imparted to him by a framer. As for the discount comment, he shouldn't have; but the rest???
 
Mom-Maybe I missed the point, so I re-read the posting. And no, he said it again that "maybe only 10% of framers are competent". Heck. I think all my framers are competent. The 85% rule is purely my opinion, but since Sue May is in the 5% group, that means one of the rest of you got voted off the list. I thought I was making a light comment on his 10% statement and increasing it to 85%. Whose side do you come down on, now? I especially liked his comment on glass cleaning with ajax in a bath tub
 
You can indeed skewer me! I went up and looked at the thing also. Actually the initial reading was done with jetlag and never checked. My apologies for doubting the tongue-in-cheekers. (Does this put me in the 90% category? I'll try to earn my way out!)

I should never have second-guessed the Grumblers without long study.
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Well, perhaps we don't understand the guy's point of view completely. I know I don't, anyway.

The interesting thing is that he's telling people to go to good framers, so that's good. And it sounds as if he's picky about which framer he sends people to, even though that particular framer may well be unhappy about being mentioned. He'll still do well by that recommendation; he doesn't have to give anybody the discount and could, if he wished, just tell people that the photographer was playing an inside joke on him or something and laugh it off.

Perhaps the photographer found a custom framer after going through lots of big-box gift shop framers or something, who knows? That would definitely influence the way he calculated the percentage of competent framers.

Apologies to Grumblers who work in big boxes, but we're building a nice little business fixing frames that people have taken somewhere else because they were cheaper. In every case, too, those people have brought other things back to us to frame, so I guess it wasn't as wasted a bunch of time as I originally thought.
 
When it comes to selecting frames, mats, mat designs,glass, etc., photographers are very poor at doing so. I have nevers seen in my 20 years of business a good photographer that is worth a darn at framing. Framing is supposed to enhance photos, not kill them...
 
We've certainly not been framing that long, but I guess I have to agree that there's not been a photographer who walked through the door who knew what to do with their work.
 
OK! OK! the reason I posted it this was I thought the part about the Ajax in the tub was dumb and dummer.
 
Really??? I ALWAYS pre-cut all the glass for the next day's projects, load it in my car and schlepp it across town to my bathtub. Of course I would never use anything as harsh as ajax - only my favorite patchouli-scented bubble bath. Then I lovingly pat it dry with a 100% Egyptian cotton towel. I also have an arrangement with the rec center so that I can use their swimming pool after hours for over-size pieces. Yeah right! Pass me the can of glass cleaner, please.
 
Not long ago I was offered $7.50/hr to manage a frame shop on the west coast (u.s.) A busy shop with 8 full-time employees. Manage! I declined and moved back to the east coast where I curently manage a shop for considerably more. Sure, my cost of living is higher, but by a smaller percent than the salary increase.

Currently looking to hire new staff and camnnot find anyone who will work for less than $11.00/hour.
 
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