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When I clicked on the icon to start this new thread, it took almost two minutes for the composition screen to come up. And when I click on Submit New Thread, it will probably take another two minutes to see it posted. It's like that with all manner of page changes.

In recent months I've noticed The G is getting slower and slower. None of the other applications on my computers are running slower, and other web sites run much faster than the G. It doesn't seem to matter which of my four internet-connected computers I'm on. They are all Pentium 4 processors of modern design and reasonable speed. I run the Disk Cleanup function and delete old files regularly. The connection speed is usually over 600 kbps, either by wired or wireless network.

What the heck is happening here? Is The G getting bogged down in data, or is the problem in my computers, or in my ISP? And more important, is there a fix?
 
Hi Jim

I haven't experienced that problem personally. I'm on the same ISP as the grumble, though. (cox.net)

I was away for the past 7 days, so maybe I didn't see it, but the times I did connect (via cellphone broadband, and via satellite/wifi from the cruise ship) - it was normal. It is working great at 10am Sunday.

Have you made any other changes to these machines lately, such as a new spyware or adware or antivirus program? Which a/v, spyware, and browsers do you run? Are any add-ins installed in the browser? Mcafee's full suite and Norton's "Norton Internet Security" suite are often troublesome products, and Spybot S&D can sometimes slow down a PC.

It could be an update to those products, or just a line speed issue between cox.net and your ISP.

It could have also been someone trying to attack our server. This does happen periodically. While the firewall keeps them out, it can still slow down the speed considerably.

I'm just guessing. It really could be anything.

Has anyone else noticed a similar problem lately (2 min load times)

Mike
 
Jim is right.

I too have noticed that many times (not always though) in the last 2-3 weeks, pressing Submit takes a while to go through.

This was the case both at work (DSL) and at home (very fast cable connection).
 
I am on Cox cable here also and have noticed no lagtime in either the posting process or the page changes. As there are so many variables to consider in slowdowns in computer efficiency nowadays, it would be difficult to pinpoint the problem area without a service call from a competent computer Geek Squad member and some serious checks and elimination of certain standard problems first!!

Give those boys in the white V-Dubbs a call, Jim, and see what they have to say.

Edit: Transfer time on this post was too quick to time with the second hand of my watch.
 
I noticed it a bit slower one day last week, but only on my dinosaur computer at home. No problems with the shop computer. Both are on Charter ATT dsl.
 
No, I'm good here.

Verizon FiOS, though. It took maybe 1-1/2 seconds for the "Post Reply" window to show.
 
I'm on a very slow dialup at home and the post reply window came up almost instantly.
 
I’ll bet it’s spy ware.

I haven’t noticed any problems and I use three different computers with different operating systems and browsers.

Have you cleaned up your internet properties lately? You should periodically delete all cookies, temp files, passwords and history. Do this in the control panel. Then you should be running some kind of anti-spy ware program like Spybot or Ad-Aware.


Doug
 
I've noticed the occasional slowdown, but usually have no problems. Today it's almost instant (on DSL). I have had this occasional slowdown on other sites too. Usually I just attribute it to heavy traffic on the internet or on certain servers. My usual remedy is to go somewhere else for a while and try it again later.
:popc: Rick
 
I haven't noticed any significant slowdown, either, especially not for a length of 2 minutes. I'm on a high-speed internet connection with Eastlink in N.S. My computer is often slow with other programs, but I haven't had a problem on the Grumble.
 
Its probably just server lag...

If its taking more than 10 seconds to process a submit request then I would point a finger at the Grumble server itself... I doubt it has anything to do with anyone's individual net connection.

It could be as simple as Jim was trying to post during a scheduled maintenance or back-up or something, and the server was just busy doing other stuff. The only real way to know is if FramerTG kept performance logs (CPU, traffic, memory, etc.).
 
At 12:58 grumble time I rebooted the system. It was down for 32 seconds.

framer
 
Internet Slow downs

Hello,

Please don't go rushing to an expensive on-site technicial service, like Geek Squad, Geeks R Us, or whatever else.

If you notice a slow down on ONE website (your computer itself is running other applications fine, and other websites aren't going slow), odds are it is NOT your computer.

First possibility: the server the website is on is currently overloaded either from traffic, or because it's being backed up, etc.

If other people are not experiencing slow downs on the same website you are:
First possibility: Routing. Meaning, the server you are on (ie: comcast.net), has to get to the server the website you are visiting (ie: cox.net). To get there, it usually has to bypass it's internal servers first, then 'bounce' around the net on several servers, before reaching the final destination site. Sometimes once it hits the host destination, it also needs to get through several servers before reaching the actual website host.

Go to dos, and do a TRACERT cox.net

here is one I just did:

------------------------------------------------------------
C:\tracert cox.net

1 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms lns2-toronto63 [64.230.199.3]
2 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms 64.230.202.141
3 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms core3-toronto63_GE4-2.net.bell.ca [64.230.232.185]
4 19 ms 18 ms .................. etc
10 61.ms 61ms 61 ms www.cox.net [68.1.17.9]
------------------------------------------------------------

the first number is just the count of bounces. the 2nd/3rd/4th numbers I can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure it's the last number that is most important. It's the time it takes for that particular server to bounce back information to you. The lower the number, the better. Anything under 200ms is acceptable. Anything under 100 is good. Under 50 is very good. (Generally speaking).

If you run that, you can usually trace to where the problem lies. It can either be your server(s), a server in between, or the host server(s).

If it's an in-between server, there is nothing you can do, short of changing your ISP.

I used to work for an ISP and we'd get people complaining about a slow connection to websites (mostly poker.net or MMORPGs). Occasionally it was because the website was running on a port that we throttled (which SOME ISP's do, to discourage useage of downloading programs like Limewire, Azureus or other Torrent file downloading software.)

Anyways, if it's one website that is slow, DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON A TECHNICIAN.

Some good suggestions were checking for spyware (although these typically affect your bandwidth overall, not just one particular website). Of course, Virus scanning is always good as well.

Clear your internet cache, try a different browser even.

Regards,
Rob
 
It's all better now. I wonder if framer tg's rebooting of the system was the answer?

As Rob mentioned, The Grumble was the only internet site with which I had the slowdown. Also, all of my computers performed about the same way. Also, I maintain my cook my cookies and clean the hardrives regularly, and my AVG antivirus software seems to keep up with everything that's going around, so I can't imagine there's spyware or cookies clogging up my system.

Whomever and whatever did the trick, thank you.
 
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