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Framing Goddess

Framing Goddess

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Hi folks.
I am looking for suggestions on how to ship a palletized and shrink wrapped Eclipse CMC from Arizona to Cleveland.
Yeah, I know, big and heavy= expensive. I am prepared.
I will follow up any ideas you can send my way.
Thanks!

edie the yepitstoobigformybike goddess
 
Call Wizard ask them who they use or Ask Mark Eaton he ships them a lot.... he would know.
 
A person in the office here used a web based service called UShip http://www.uship.com/ and got a good deal and service on getting a boat from AZ to WA. Maybe they can help you out.
 
When I bought my underpinner from California the seller suggested Ebay shipping, it only cost around $100. It took a while to get here. As I recall truck drivers would take it to a certain point and sombody else would pick it up and take it a bit further. Seemed kinda random but it did work.

Also, try Craigslist. I've seen people saying thay are driving from here to there and they have room on their truck for a price. Surely somebody will be coming from AZ to OH.

Good luck! Good for you getting the CMC too!
 
The first issue is "how" is it crated. The answer to this question effects the second issue "how much does it cost to ship it". Both of these answers effect how much you pay to get it fixed once it arrives.

You must stand on your to read these answers (like the answers to a test in a magazine). Just kidding of course.

Answers:
1. The machine must ship in a full (6-six sided) plywood box with proper internal support braces. The machine must be completely stretch wrapped to prevent the gantry from moving). All electrical connections must be disconnected from all motors.

2. You must now choose the best shipping class. For the average person this is class 200. Use any LTL carrier. LTL = Less-than a Truck Load. Don't do step No. 1 - then call a furniture mover and pay through the nose. Pay to insure it for full value no matter how it ships. I'm sure you got a good deal on the used machine. The insurance will not be that much.

3. Don't do No. 1 and the on-site service visit for repair will cost $1,400 for the first day plus $850 for each day there after - plus parts. Cost of one bent Y-axis gantry is approx $2,000. OK. Say it makes it to you with only cosmetic damages because it was not crated and another shipment rubbed against your machine for 2,400 miles. This will effect "your" re-sale value and you will see your mistake every day that own the machine - like a bad over cut on a mat.

Experience:
Sent an Eclipse to the Orlando DECOR show. Freight company stacked a pallet of soy milk on top of the crate. The crate clearly stated not to stack materials on top. The pallet crashed through the top and bent the Y-axis.
We had to air-freight a new machine from UT to FL for the show.

These method apply to the transportation of any CMC unless you're moving it yourself.

Hope this helps everyone.
 
Framing Goddess said:
Hi folks.
...... a palletized and shrink wrapped Eclipse CMC from Arizona to Cleveland.
Click to expand...

I must concurr with Mark Eaton - if the CMC is just shrink wrapped on a pallet, you are definitely asking for trouble.

I ship CMC's every week, and I can assure you, if you are going to hand over a heavy, highly sensitive machine like this to a third party freight company.... without it's original protective, secure, box/crate - then I hope you have the best shipping insurance money can buy - because you will have to expect it to go wrong.

In fact, I find that even if the machines ARE packed properly - the "cheaper" freight options are almost a guarantee for something to go wrong - so don't shop around on the cheapest freight option, unless you are prepared to pay for the repairs.

Even when I have a second hand CMC for sale here in Australia, and I don't happen to have a proper box for it..... if a guy 1000 miles away from it wants to buy it, then the only way it happens is if the guy wants to pick it up himself... otherwise I don't sell it to him.

As you can see - we've had too many bad experiences shipping CMC's in the past.

Like anything in life - taking shortcuts just exposes the amount of risk for things to go wrong.

Good luck!

Jared
 
Here's the follow up

I placed an ad on Craigslist in Phoenix to have a crate built around the palletized Eclipse. I had NO LESS than 30 replies, prices from $180 to $800. I picked a guy who seemed to know what he was talking about and he charged me $200. I sent him money orders, $100 up front and the balance when it was done. The guy who built the crate emailed me the final dimensions.

Thanks to Mark Eaton's wonderful and concise information, I found a shipper through Unishippers.com, RL Carriers. He told me to tell them it was freight class 200 and to specify a truck with a lift gate at my end since we have no loading dock or pallet jack. (though I just may have one hidden under all that junk in the basement... :o) The crate arrived on a sunny day and we uncrated it out on the sidewalk. I set up the shipping on unishippers website which was easy and painless. Shipping from Arizona to Cleveland set me back $252. Seems like a deal to me.

Also I checked with my business insurance (Capax, I think) to make sure it was covered en route and it was indeed.

The CMC is now installed and working.
And all is well!
Many thanks to Mark Eaton!!!

Edie the nowhowdoiturnthisthingon goddess
 
Rick,
This is why I always pick friends who are smarter than me. They're not hard to find. :D

I have a wonderful professional friendship with a framer about 25 miles from me--- we order mat boards and moulding together, go to trade shows together, even have exchanged/shared employees.

She also happens to have an Eclipse and she is smarter than heck about how the thing works. That's why I got an Eclipse.

She and her husband came to the shop and had that thing disassembled, moved, reassembled and working in one short afternoon. I could've never done it myself.

Now I have to figure out how to build her a website in return.

:beer:

and all is well...

edie the whathaveigottenmyselfinto goddess
 
I have a Valiani in storage right now I am trying to sell. I want to get it ready to ship and am wondering if you put it on the stand for shipping, then wrap with shrink wrap, then crate it. Or do you put it in pieces on the pallet, wrap it and crate it? Right now it is off the stand all the wires and hoses disconnected. I'm thinking if it was on the stand we could put all the accessories under it on the same pallet in boxes. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I want to get this thing our of storage soon.
 
I would dismantle the stand and ship it separately…. I don’t think the stand would be strong enough to take the movement during shipping, it could warp or worse still collapse…
 
I purchased a Gunnar F1Hybrid from an individual in New York City and had it shipped to Texas.
It had a partial mount attached and was delivered that way. (it had been wall mounted vs. on a floor stand)
It was wrapped very well in a couple of blankets and the mount was attached long ways to a couple of boards (pretty simple).
It arrived in perfect condition.
Contact me via PM if you'd like more details.


Z
 
Thanks. I don't know why I didn't think of the ShippingDepot. I'll be giving them a call to see if they can pick it up when it's sold. Soon I hope.
 
Rhonda,

The people that you had do the shipping of the Fletcher 3000 I got from you did a wonderful job of packing. It was one of the better packing jobs I have seen. They cut little holes in the foam inserts that perfectly matched every knob and part.

The only problem I had was trying to find enough large bags to put all of the packing material in to take out to the trash!

If they did a similar job, but had it on a pallet, I'm sure there would be no problems.
 
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