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I have a large number of sepia tone prints to make (24 x 36) on my Epson 7800.

I've never really been happy with sepia results on any white based inkjet paper that I've tried.

I believe a beige/ cream/ warm tone paper would help.

Any suggestions.

Doug
 
Haven't been following the papers very close.

But...one old trick to simulate pronounced base colors is to put a curves layer on top of everything else on the Photoshop layer stack, then separately reduce the green and blue curves to they max out at about 253, leaving the red curve to max out at 255, it's normal position. That creates a distinctly cream colored base, many other possibilities exist. It's Dial-A-Base! And of course it also reduces your white point, but a cream paper would do that anyway.

You can get opinions on papers at http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php on the Papers, Printers, and Inks forum

Edit, been a while since I did this, I think you would want to go to Green:250 and Blue:248 to get a really noticeable effect. Leave the "0" ends of all the curves at 0, that causes the effect to more noticeable in the light areas than the dark.
 
You may try some rag papers. I think they are much warmer and without optical brighteners. I use breathing color. For my b/w images, that paper is to warm but may not help your sepias much.
 
Thanks Guys for the information.

More_so, your pushing the limits of my photoshop skills. :)

I'll go to work three hours early and try your suggestion..... or..... maybe delegate the trial to my younger and smarter associate.

Doug
 
Sepia is for me the hardest color to master, in fact I still haven't. I love the color in Lenswork Magazine. He uses a duo-tone to print those. While printing with our printers we don't really print in 2 tones (or 3 or 4 or whatever) but I find it helps in the post production to produce them in photo shop as duo or tri tones.

I've also had problems with paper whites when the highlights have no color at all. To combat this I take my white slider in levels and push them over so that something is being sprayed on the entire image. Even if it's light, it's at least not paper white. Also it will be spraying some brown/red onto the white to warm the whites a bit.

Good luck and if you find a formula that works well, I'd be thrilled to discuss it with you. I'll share everything I know if you will. I find that some details like this are like top secret like a chili recipes. I've never understood this. I'm a no secrets kind of guy as long as the sharing is mutually advantageous.
 
Jay H said:
Sepia is for me the hardest color to master, in fact I still haven't.
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Welcome to the club.

Sepia is the Holy Grail of photo printing. Almost everything else is a piece of cake.

Most of mine have a little too much red for me, but if I pull back on the red it looks too green.

I have an Epson PM260 4x6 printer that does Sepia perfectly by just clicking a radio button. The R2880 and 9880, no joy. Whatever code they use in that driver needs to be added to all their drivers.
 
Moab Intrada bright white 300g Rag paper. It is very bright and has whitener agents in it that make it brighter than most fine art papers.
 
Was just poking around on the 'net.

For basic sepia in Photoshop versions starting with CS...

Image->Adjustments->Photo Filter.

This brings up a dialogue box with a drop-down box. Click on the down-pointing arrow on the drop-down box, and pick Sepia.

The contrast and quality of the image will have a lot to do with it. May or may not be to your liking.

One of the most important ingredients of sepia is probably to have a long, rich tonal range with open shadows, like old studio portraiture. It's a look that kind of disappeared in the grainy 60's somewhere.

There also appear to be much jazzier ways of doing this such as with the channel mixers, try a search and find one of those step-by-step pages.
 
FYI, I posted my question on the Grumble, Bestphotolist & Epson wide format yahoo group.

I have found that Information on the Grumble can be as good or better than info on the specialty imaging groups.

Here are a few responses from the Epson Yahoo group:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EpsonWideFormat/
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#98460 From: "shileshjani" <shileshjani@...>
Date: Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:25 pm
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Doug,

Epson Ultra-Smooth Fine Art is a nice "warm-ish" paper. Hahnemuhle William

Turner is my all-time favorite, along with Museum Etching is you don't mind sme
texture/tooth.

There are lots of nobrightened, or "natural" papers available from Moab, Canson,

Breathing Color, and many others.

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#98462 From: "tboleyyh" <tyler@...>
Date: Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:43 pm
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take a look at Bamboo

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#98465 From: Andrew Darlow <ad@...>
Date: Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:22 pm
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Hi Doug:

There are many options. One of the most popular ones that I use is Moab Entrada

Natural. You can also get a pigment ink sampler from RedRiverPaper.com and you

can try some of theirs (they are about 30-50% less expensive in most cases

compared with most high end art papers).

Hope that helps.
All the best,

Andrew Darlow

Editor, The Imaging Buffet

http://www.imagingbuffet.com
 
Hi Doug,

Recently, I had a request for a warm fine-art paper from a French artist to reproduce some of her work. I did a little research and had some samples to show, from the Epson pack, and decided to ordere a roll of Epson Fine Art Hot Press Natural. It has a warmer tone and the results were good. Havent tried a Sepia tone on it yet.

Only problem I noticed is there is some paper curl from the roll. I dont dare try to deroll it for fear of damaging the finish. You can get the paper in sheets, but it is too expensive. Rolls are the best buy.
 
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