Robert DeNiro lives in Tribeca but chances are he wouldn't know how to cut this frame

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Yikes, I used every character allowed in the title. Wanted to add an exclamation point!


I'm looking for a solution,

I always order LJ Tribecca 220285 chopped because it is hard to cut. Well, I made a mistake and ordered my chop on this one too big. D'oh! It is an out of stock and it took 6 days for the mismeasured one to get here otherwise I would just order a new one. So, my only choice is to cut it myself or make a 60 mile round trip and beg the people at LJ to resize it for me.

Anybody ever cut this one? What can I configure to cut it myself? And, while I am at it why do moulding companies make moulding that is hard to cut and join? Just had a small scuffle with Roma Regatta, the wavy one..............

Any thoughts on how to rig 220285 for cutting would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
Do you have any fellow framers in the area that can help you out? I know you are a sweet heart, so go see a friend and see if they can help you out. Sorry don't know which LJ that is, but good luck
Patrick Leeland
 
Hi Kathy,
I just ordered this moulding and couldn't believe I had showed it to the customer except it's a nice looking frame! I have a gallery piece framed in it,(my first experience).I had no trouble cutting it but joining it. So I now glue and vise it before v-nailing. What is the specific problem when you cut it?
 
Kathy

I have not had any problems cutting that profile. Joining on the other hand can be a nightmare.

What type of saw do you have?

You can try a small piece of wood to support the rabbet if you are having problems with it rolling toward the rabbet.


I almost threw that sample away until I decided that it was not going to beat me.
 
I have a Brevetti double mitre. The frame does not sit up against the fence properly, I can't hold it in place. The Roma Regatta I spoke of does the same thing but has a flat enough edge that I can hold it in place. To join it on the underpinner I had to fill in with a couple pieces of matboard to keep it from slipping.

The Tribeca one is sloped just enough that it won't lay flat against the fence. When they chop it for me I can build it with no trouble it is just getting the blasted thing cut.

I think I just might have to waste the earth's valuable resources and drive allllllll the way out there and have them cut it for me. I just htought maybe someone else had the same trouble.

I like this profile enough to keep on the wall, it has a nice depth and shape. My fault for ordering it the wrong size.
 
You said it was too big. Why don't you try cutting it down but make it too big as well. I mean if it needs to go from 25 to 22" why not cut off an inch and figure out how to do it? If you have to reorder or ship it back and have them recut it why not experiment and beat this sucker!

Good luck with it! and DON'T let it beat you, after all you are the one with the cerebral cortex and opposable thumbs, its just a stick of wood!
 
I too have had no trouble cutting it, but my one and only experience joining it took it right off the wall! no more uh, uh, not me.

Don't push the side against the fence. Hold it as flat to the bottom as you can and just touch the back fence with the bottom of the moulding.
 
Before you cut it can you capitalize on this "mistake"? Can you do a "free upgrade" to a bigger mat? If the customer likes it then you may be a ble to convert the customer to big mats in the future and raise the ticket price on future jobs with this customer!

If I had to chose between eating the cost of a second frame and eating the cost of a bigger mat, I'd opt for the mat! (And if I had already cut the mats I might even "throw in" a top mat and go for a triple mat!) The cost of the mats balance out cost of my time lost waiting for the chop to go back and forth to LJ!
 
Get a piece of stock lumber from your local lumber yard that is slightly deeper than the depth of the rabbet and slightly thicker than the width. Something like a 1x2 might work, or a rectangular piece of strainer frame.
Put that against the fence of the Brevetti and hang the Tribeca from it using the inside of the rabbet (the cheek) as your register against the shim (therefore the fence) and using scribe lines instead of the measuring fence, cut the frame backward making sure you cut through the shim as well on each cut.
I use this technique quite often with mouldings that have an irregular outer edge like Roma 57543 or have a lumpy finish like the LJ356055.

Edit: Joining it is a whole nother problem. I'd say glue and clamp, then v-nail.
 
That's clever Wally!

I must admit that I had to read to it through a few times to get it. But I use a chopper, and it didn't translate well!

Now I guess I need to get that chop saw after all. Oh well like they say on Car Talk ever project is an excuse to buy new tools!
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Originally posted by Bob Doyle:
Now I guess I need to get that chop saw after all. Oh well like they say on Car Talk ever project is an excuse to buy new tools!
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Just had a job that required 5/8" wide X 2" deep floater frames around big canvases (largest was 78" X 96"). So, I justified buying a Hoffmann dovetail joiner so I could join the frames around the canvases. Varoooooom!

Bob, It won't work on a double headed miter saw unless you can have the blades work independently. The Brevetti, because the blades move independently and horizontally (versus in unison and vertically like a Pistorius) is perfect for this little trick.
 
Wally,

wasn't looking at a Brevetti double headed yet, was thinking a real good compound mitre with a metal blade that I could chop down my metal mistakes on.

Then upgrade to a Brevetti or Pistorius two years later, because by then the chop saw would be at home in my fledgling workshop, which if I were honest with myself is what I'm buying it for in the first place! I like doing woodworking at home, but have so far built everything with a second (third) hand table saw and a skil saw.

Nah, I'd probably keep the chop saw, but just get a second, better one and keep the first chop saw to do the unmeasured side (first cut)
 
I can't just make the mat bigger because I doubled the size to begin with. It is one of these dealies that I am top mounting and when I measured I included the border and forgot to delete the border the computer adds on.

I do have some practice room since I have a couple extra inches. But, the first time I cut this frame no matter what I did or where I held I did not get a consistent cut. If i could clamp it I might be able to hold it stationary. But, I have no working clamps on the saw, just my hands.

I'm gonna give Wally's suggestion a try. But, I am going to have to reread it as I am slightly unsure. I'm gathering I am putting the frame in the saw backwards? I'm going in, if you don't hear back from me safely assume I did something wrong and couldn't stop the bleeding.........
 
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