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Emibub

Emibub

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An opportunity has presented itself to buy a used AMP corner sander. Actually I know of two people selling a corner sander here locally. I am curious if it is risky to buy used? Can anything go permanently out of whack? One of them claims to be almost like new. He wants $400 and it is local so I wouldn't have to ship. I would appreciate knowing what to look for when buying it.

Thanks.
 
Kathy,

I think that's about the going rate for a new one. What don't they want it? Could you try it out and return it if you don't like it? Even though you are saving shipping, I'd offer a little less. You'll love it if you decide to get it though.
Oh, is it manual or electric?
 
Kathy

As already mentioned, that is about the going rate for a new one. And givien the fact that I believe LJ and Colorado Moulding would both carry it, you could save shipping anyway by picking it up at the distribution center.

You may want to check around a bit and with the new prices in hand try to negotiate a better deal.
 
Jo, I'm not sure why he is selling it. It is a sales rep from one of my distributors. I checked ITW AMP's website and I can't find pricing or model numbers. I thought I read somewhere here on the G that somebody paid like $450. I plan on offering Less, but honestly I think instead of Less he will want money. I know I would.

I guess I am feeling a bit of urgencey because these things don't come up for sale used very often..................

Yeah, I will make a better offer for sure. Just wondering if they can break?

Walt, LJ carries them?

[ 09-04-2003, 07:58 PM: Message edited by: Emibub ]
 
Royall,

Does it look like this:

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If so, HERE'S here's a place that sells them. Also, by all means, check our SPONSOR, United!!!

EDIT United product #2260, looks strangely like the ITW/AMP, and sells for the same price, more or Less. Where's Peter Ackerman when we need him???

[ 09-04-2003, 08:24 PM: Message edited by: CharlesL ]
 
That is the one Chuck, thanks! So, if Presto sells it for $445 you gotta figure the show special would be $400, I figure $50 for shipping, so I am not saving that much. He would have to go down to $300-$350. We will see.....

Jerry, I don't know much about the Barton. I wonder why it would be so much less? I will have to look into it.

I better not jump on this one. I wasn't actually looking to buy one right now. It is the one item I thought I would get this year, I really want one. I was just talking to a rep about a question w/my underpinner and mentioned I wasn't sure what to do when my corners aren't perfect and he happened to mention having a sander for sale. I am just doing the math in my head.
 
as far as i know they can not go out of wack. it is a simple machine, that is why it lasts forever. i think you should be able to knock a few dollars off that price. it does go for about $450.00 from most companies. i think they said 400.00 new at trade shows. i think that is what the other folks said.

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K,

Last year I bought one for our local museum that does there own framing. I am almost sure that the going price was at least $495. I got a show special and saved shipping.I think I paid $450. Almost threw out my back carrying the thing to the car, but part of that was Framerguy's fault for forgetting where he parked the car.

It is very unlikely that something is wrong with it, The thing is built like a tank. You would have to really do some bad things to it,to brake it.

As far as adjusting, I have been using mine for about 6 years now and haven't ever had to make an adjustment.Once it's set up you're set!

Why do they want to get rid of it?

Make the guy an offer and see what happens.Good luck!!

Mark
 
Show price in Atlanta last year was $450 cash-and-carry. Regular price was $475. As Mark pointed out, figure extra for chiropractic if you have to carry it more than 20 feet.

They rarely turn up used, since there is little that could go wrong, and it's not like people are upgrading to the computer operated model. But when you buy a new one, you get a couple of extra discs, instructions (which I plan to read very soon,) the tools to adjust the miter and a disc cleaning thingy.
 
Royall,
HERE is the Barton sander I found doing a search.

We don't have a sander, so all I know about them is what I've read on the G. With all due respect to Jerry, a good ol' NC boy, I've constantly read that an electric sander can take too much off almost instantly. But, hey! whatever works! I'm sure Jerry is quite accomplished with his electric, and that the others are equally accomplished with their manual sanders.

(the Barton DOES weigh 75 pounds, according to the link, so moving it around would be a little more difficult than the ITW/AMP, which advertises itself at 40 pounds)
 
Thanks again Chuck. I think the word is the electric ones can be a bit aggressive and take too much off. Although this one says it won't. I remember someone posting one a couple of months ago that was new on the market that was electric. I can't find that one. I think that one was available on Ebay.

I shouldn't be even entertaining the idea, but I was told that perfect mitres would make the underpinner all that more easy to use. I thought if I could save some money now it would be wise to jump on it. Obviously he would really have to go down on the price.

There is another gentleman here in town who is cutting a too deep frame for me tomorrow. He mentioned he had sold a sander to someone a year ago and he thought the guy may not have used it much. He was going to call him today and ask him if he was looking to sell it off. I think that one is a Barton, but I know it isn't electric. He told me he let that one go for $150. I'd love to get my hands on that one.

[ 09-04-2003, 09:37 PM: Message edited by: Emibub ]
 
You can have Less for $200
 
Emibub--

I saw an ad recently from a frame shop in Baltimore that was closing and selling an AMP sander. I'll see if I can dig it up and whether it would be cheaper (with shipping). As Ron pointed out, with a new one you get the calibration tool, a couple of discs and the cleaning thing. It's a great tool. Not much to break on it. I haven't had to change the disc on mine yet, but there was some discussion here indicating the job can be tedious. About the only thing that can go wrong with this tool (unless you abuse it)is it can be misadjusted or perhaps a poor job replacing the disc can leave residue behind that might affect performance. I put the sander in the must have category if you want really nice corners.

I've never met Less, but I think he would have a hard time selling himself for $200. Talks too much and probably been out on the street too long.
 
We tried to buy the Baltimore sander. SOLD. She said she had several inquiries and sold it locally - so don't look too hard for the email address (it was on PPFA equipment for sale if we're talking about the same one).

WOW - my 100th post! :cool:

[ 09-05-2003, 11:18 AM: Message edited by: Maryann ]
 
Thanks for the ideas everybody. I am going to offer this guy $300, hopefully he will come back with $350. We will see. I just wanted some comfort level buying it used. He is a sales rep from a local distributor, so, I think I can trust him.

It is the one piece of equipment I had on my list this year. Whatever it takes to speed up production.
 
All righty then...what are the chances that the sander "fell off the back of truck"?

I don't mean to think ill of anyone, but...does this fellow actually do framing? Maybe the sander will come with all the tools and instructions that Ron described...would that be a dead give away? I wonder if it's ever been used...even once?

hummm.....
 
Whatever it takes to speed up production.
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I don't know about speeding anything up, but it will sure improve the quality of your miters.

You are sure to love it, if you ever get it. The sander that is. ;)

Mark
 
Well Mark, it will speed it up if I am no longer spending time having to twist the wood or putty. Yes, I read how happy you guys all are with yours and I know I need to have one too. Even have a space reserved for it when I do get one.....
 
Originally posted by CharlesL:
Royall,
HERE is the Barton sander I found doing a search.

We don't have a sander, so all I know about them is what I've read on the G. With all due respect to Jerry, a good ol' NC boy, I've constantly read that an electric sander can take too much off almost instantly. But, hey! whatever works! I'm sure Jerry is quite accomplished with his electric, and that the others are equally accomplished with their manual sanders.

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I love my Barton sander and still wonder why I waited so long to buy one! Contrary to rumors..... it does not take a lot off. You just tap it a couple of times against the spinning disk. (It fits right in with my "thing" for counting things. :D ) I don't know why everyone seems to think it takes off so much.
 
Kathy,

I've used the AMP for several years now. It is a great piece of equipment, but if you are doing several frames at once, it may get your arms a bit tired. It does me, and I do a lot of gardening, exercising, etc.. I do think the 400.00 price tag is a bit excessive for a used one.

We just purchased an electric model by Cutting Edge Designs while in Atlanta. The owner of the company is a retired engineer that helped design most of Fletcher's equipment, including their CMC.
On this one you can sand two legs at a time. The motor seems to run slow enough to not take off too much material at once. They let me try it and it seemed to work great, of course I only used the mouldings they had on hand. I won't be able to set mine up here till next week, but I have high hopes for it.

If you want to talk to Cutting Edge Designs their number is 877-282-4048. The price is 399.00--at the show you got an extra attachment with that price. They are just the nicest people--the owner and his wife were there together. We went back to see them several times before we bought, and each time they were busy, busy. I think they did very well at the show. I hope they did, I like to see the nice guys win once in a while.

Feel free to e-mail me if you have any questions. I am too picky for my own good and I sand everything!!

Nancy Stinson
 
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