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DenKym

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I didn't want to steal bloomer's thread, but I happen to have a Plasma TV question that I am hoping some of you can help with.

My customer has a Plasma TV on the wall. I am not worried about framing it. That part I have worked out. What I am wondering is if there is a way to have a motorized picture or tapestry or something in front of it that they can remotely roll up and down when they want to watch TV.

I can kind of picture it, but am having a hard time on the logistics of it. Has anyone done anything similar or have any ideas on how this could be implemented?

Or maybe there are some other clever ideas on a way to cover the screen when not watching it. Any suggestions would be appreciated!

Thanks much!
Kym
 
Smarthome.com will definitely have what you are looking for!

BTW anyone else remember the SLAM of the film projector screen going up in high school? (and waking you up from a great dream!) Those old screens are motorized now, and are probably what you're looking for.

Another idea would be bifold doors, or pocket doors to cover the screen. My wife has a freind who is a woodworker in Northern CA. She was commissioned to build a cabinet that raised and lowered the TV when it wasn't being used. Had to build a second one two years later because the customer got a bigger TV!
 
Recess the TV in the wall, mount canvas painting on 1/2" 9-ply baltic birch, frame in nice Roccoco frame that completely covers TV.

Ok, ok. Slice the TV down the center, and hinge on the outside, so that the frame and picture open like a set of doors. It takes sliding double hinged hinges. (Rockler has them I think.)

Saw it in a woodworking magazine about 30 years ago.
 
We've covered a couple with framed 2-way mirrors and they work well.

One home had cabinet doors installed over the tv, and we mounted a framed canvas onto the cabinet doors (to one side only) using Z-bar.
The cabinet doors were custom finished to look like part of a stacked frame. Very nice look.
 
Great ideas, all! Thanks, everyone, for the ideas and links.

We talked with the couple a bit more last night and got a better idea of what they were looking for. (For an hour after closing time
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Their first choice is a rolling canvas, but they are not opposed to a 2-way mirror or other hiding mechanism. I'm sure we will be able to help them with something. I will let you know what we end up with when it is all done.

Thanks again!
Kym
 
How about using a window shade? Tranfer an image onto the shade and mount it up inside the frame so it can be pulled down. I don't know how well that would hold up over time, but it is the first thing that came to mind.
 
I'd like to know a little more about the mirror idea. I assume you leave the mirror there and you can see the TV through it when it's turned on? is it clear? a particular thickness?

thanks
 
Cliff,
Yes the mirror stays on the wall. We've done this in a couple of bathrooms where the t.v. is installed and we then mount a framed 2 way mirror over the tv. The trick is to have everything that might show (any exposed wall, etc.) painted black. The remote works perfectly through the mirror and if the room is dark, the picture shows up nicely. Not as clear in a brightly lit room, of course.

This is a great application for those who like to watch their morning shows while getting ready, or to watch a show while soaking in the tub. When off, there is no evidence of electronics in the room. We did one also in a bedroom-beautiful!

It seems that the 2-way was 1/4" thick.
 
I had a guy in the shop some time ago asking about framing one. He told me that when not watching TV he could choose from a number of works of art that could be displayed on the screen and changed at will just like changing the channel. Unfortunatley he hasn't been back and I have no personal knowlege besides what he said but worth checking into.
 
I have done several of the 2-way mirror in front of TV setups. It really is a nice look when finished.

Two downsides. The mirror is very very expensive, and very very heavy.

If the framed mirror needs to be opened with hinges to gain access to the DVD player, VCR, etc, there is a lot of weight being held by the upper and lower joints on the hinge side.

Pocket screws should be used on all four joints.
 
I did one 3-4 mos ago-----it has a big eng-2014 cap with handbuilt extensions(@10" deep painted to 'match' the cap...no big deal....what makes this really GREAT is the inner material, covering the entire screen....when tv is on there is a regular tv---NO visual distortion or diminished color/brightness---when it's off IT'S A MIRROR!!!!!! really great stuff!!!! it's a small local company, it's patent pending & i'll turn you'all on to my local guy...give me a email on it
bill ward
 
Terry
The product you are mentioning might be the dvd's available form Piano Brothers try it at pianobrothers.com

Jill Hennes
Omro Gallery
 
Concealing plasma displays is a rapidly growing segment of the Custom Audio Video Industry. In the interests of full disclosure, I work for Media Decor, a company that designs and manufactures such devices. These solutions are well suited to the custom framer.

Here are some solutions:

1. Simply add a moulding to the TV. Generally size it so that the rabbett equals the outside dims of the TV. A simple vertical strap on the left and right side will hold it firmly to the TV. In most cases, the rabbet will not conceal the IR receiver for the remote control.

2. If the TV is close enough to the wall, a more elegant frame would be a shadow box type that conceals the left and right sides of the TV. You MUST leave the top and bottom open to allow ventilation. A 2" gap across the top and bottom is recommended.

The above are simple solutions with added value to sale, ie more profit. They do NOT conceal the TV, but for the budget minded it will dress up that big black glass on the wall.

3. Most framers have probably seen or used framed 2 way mirrors to conceal the TV. Glass is heavy, so DO NOT hang it directly on the TV. Ideally, the TV is recess mounted in the wall and a top and bottom continuous Z clip holds it firmly to the wall. The Z clip should be 1/8" thick aluminum.

1/4" thick glass is recommended, any thinner and there is bound to be optical distortion.

There are essentially two types of glass available for this purpose: Miropane glass and Media Mirror glass.

Miropane is an architectural glass best known as a 'half-silvered' mirror. It is readily available almost anywhere. When the TV is off it is essentially a decorator mirror, when the TV is on the picture shows through the glass. It has an effective measured transmission of about 15%. The TV brightness must be cranked up, but this adversely affects the contrast and some colors. The cost is about $20 per square foot.

Media-Mirror Glass is actually a beam-splitter, not a half silvered mirror. Instead of using metals to create the reflectance/transmission, it uses a non metallic dielectric coating. It has an effective measured transmission of about 50%. The visual difference is dramatic. The TV brillance does not need to be turned up. The cost is high because of the manufacturing process. It runs about $100 per square foot.

4. Moving artwork is probably the best way to conceal a TV, but it is expensive. This solution as well as the 'Media Mirror' is covered by various Patents. The cost (retail) runs from about $2500 to $8000. Three companies manufacture the moving artwork:

-Media Decor, LLC www.mediadecor.com
-Visionart, www.solarshading.com
-Vutec, www.vutec.com

You generally get what you pay for in these systems. There is no reason a skilled framer could not modify any of these units with their own frame.

Hope this info is helpful.
 
Jonathan, thank you for your very professional and informative post.
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I have not yet had a request for this type of design, but after all this great info I am now going to try and get one.

Welcome to the Grumble! Be sure to look for the thread about how each of us found this place and add your story.

I hope that you will stick around, as this subject is likely to be an ongoing topic!
 
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