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Randall C Colvin

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I've been asked to tackle a job that seems a bit beyond my purview but I'm considering it, especially since ordinary work orders a bit slow now. Here's the job; reassemble the center circle of a gymnasium floor (it has been stored in coded bundles for reassembly), frame it in a surround that allows for illumination of some sort around the perimeter. Mounting the piece on the gymnasium wall would be somebody else's baby. I don't know what the diameter of this particular circle is but an online search indicates that it should be about 12 feet! I'm beginning to think I should crawfish out of this thing or maybe stick to my semi-commitment of looking at it, helping sort out the reassembly and then turn it over to a carpentry crew to be assembled on site.
 
I wouldn't try it. There are firms that specialize in advertising displays who will be better able to tackle this project. I don't know where you would get 12' material and the lighting factor would be very trying. The finished piece would be extremely heavy. Could you even get something 12' on a side in and out of your shop?
 
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I read this. Not now, not ever, NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVER.

12' circular frame. Yea right!
Illuminated?
Have to build it on site, unless you have a huge van and shop!
12' diameter =~ 113 sq ft
@apx 2.8 lb/sqft for maple = 316 lbs.
Will have to double the substrate since they don't make 12' plywood so 113 x 2 x 1.8 lbs/sqft = 406 lb
Total weight = 316 + 406 = 723 lbs
Now how to fasten this to whatever the gym wall is?
Someone correct me if I am way off.

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Literally too many moving pieces.
You also have no idea the care taken, other than mapping and numbering the pieces, in the disassembly process.
There are companies that specialize in marquetry/parquetry and one of them should be called in to do the actual work.
I would guess that the owners (school?) may have checked that possibility and deemed it too expensive. Now they're looking for a less expensive route.
I would consult with a gym flooring specialist business before I went any farther or recommend that the client does. They will also need the help of an industrial sign fabricator to take this form horizontal to vertical.
 
Bruce Papier said:
I wouldn't try it. There are firms that specialize in advertising displays who will be better able to tackle this project. I don't know where you would get 12' material and the lighting factor would be very trying. The finished piece would be extremely heavy. Could you even get something 12' on a side in and out of your shop?
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I'm thinking it would have to be assembled on site, probably on the wall as it goes together. Of course, the first step is just making sure everything is there and goes together properly. I'm beginning to think that would be the extent of my involvement. Initially, I had the impression that the circle might 6-8 feet - tough enough but 12 feet (if it is that big) is getting out of the question.
 
Larry Peterson said:
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I read this. Not now, not ever, NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVER.

12' circular frame. Yea right!
Illuminated?
Have to build it on site, unless you have a huge van and shop!
12' diameter =~ 113 sq ft
@apx 2.8 lb/sqft for maple = 316 lbs.
Will have to double the substrate since they don't make 12' plywood so 113 x 2 x 1.8 lbs/sqft = 406 lb
Total weight = 316 + 406 = 723 lbs
Now how to fasten this to whatever the gym wall is?
Someone correct me if I am way off.

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The frame would be square, possibly rectangular. If it is over 6 or 7 feet I think it could only be done on site.
 
Many, many years ago a very successful Swedish business man taught me .......

You will have proved yourself to be a good businessman when you know how to refuse an order"
He told me that in 1966 = that's 58 years ago :faintthud::D
 
Larry Peterson said:
My price, should I choose to accept this, would have at least 3 trailing zeros, maybe 4.
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You mean, trailing the leading 3 digits? I would probably take it on for just 2 zeros trailing the leading three. But closer to 3 than 1...

Then again, I am not a pitcher farmer, and have differing skill sets and equipment. And employees who know even more than I do.
 
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