He said:
Anyone have any experience using Peterboro Mats? The distributor carrying them says they exceed all other's standards, another distibutor says they are bottom of the barrel in Canada.
Only thing these two guys would agree on is that they are from Canada. Soooooo.... any of you Canadian framers have an opinion about these boards? Prce is good, and colors look great, so what is the real story?
Thanks in advance for the info...
To which Ron replied:
Never heard of 'em, Bob.
In fact, I think you made that name up, since it is well-known that I have a corner sample of every c/p mat in the known universe on my design counter.
(Ask if they meet FACTS standards and, if they go, "Huh?" you'll have your answer.)
Then, Cliff added his opinions and experience:
Don Mar just started carrying them. They had samples at the recent "Don Mar Days" event at their warehouse in Seekonk, MA. I took one sheet. white. seems to cut fine. reminds me of Artique but seems a very little, wee little bit thinner even though it's four ply. Don't know if the line is consistent or not. Certainly a good price point. They had some specialty designs ("mottled" colors) that looked interesting. The rep that was at the event said they met FACTS standards. (But, it wasn't said too loudly if you know what I mean. I had the feeling he was told that, but didn't really know what it meant.)
Not really much help, but that's what I know.
Even at the lower price point I probably won't use them. Same reason I haven't started using Crescent Selects. I have Bainbridge and Artique stock and I just don't want more flavors. Not enough delta to cause a shift and restock yet.
Then Ron shared with us some research that he did, along with some tabloid journalism of the specifications and questioned their spelling:
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Peterboro Accent is a high quality mat specified around archival guidelines laid down by The Library of Congress and FACTS Standard Guide.
The Surface Paper is acid free and made with a high tensile strength to resist tearing.
The Core is 90% Alpha Cellulose* (which is distilled from cotton or wood) to provide a high archival purity and a clean easy to cut bevel.
The composition of the material and manufacturing standard are strictly control to limit any potential impact on the archival properties of the mat.
Available in over 80 colours (and both standard and giant sizes), Peterboro Accent offers the best quality for value in the market.
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* I wonder what the other 10% is.
I'm not sure I'd buy matboard from a company that doesn't know how to spell "colors."
When suddenly the lovely JudyN tossed in a query:
BUT they have GIANT sizes! I wonder what that means?
Never missing a chance to dance on the grave of a discontinued product line, Jerry shares his theory:
Maybe the GIANT boards are the old monster boards from TruVue that Crescent dumped out the back door by the loading dock.
Then Ron, the ever 'fair & balanced' force on The Grumble answered JudyN's question, converted it into inches for us, ignored Jerry, and still managed to keep the thread on topic with a witty remark when he said:
"Giant" means 1020 x 1530mm.
That would be 40x60 for the rest of us.
(Are ya happy yet, Bob?)
Then Emibub displayed her compassion and a touch insecurity by adding:
I was going to come over here and post an encouraging post because I felt sorry for Bob and his self proclaimed admission to being the official thread killer here on the G.
I see you guys have already done that. Now with any hope I won't be the last one to post in here, wouldn't want to be the one to kill it.
Then Framerguy, who rarely misses a trick, calls Ron on his claims of ignorance, hints at the consequences of betrayal, and in a touching P.S. calls attention to his chivalrous actions on behalf of Lady Emibub
Ron,
For a guy who "never heard of 'em", you sure did lay down a big wad of information on them!!
You haven't been holding back on us, have you?? You know what happens to guys who hold back on their friends. .......... Uh huh, you get paid a visit in the middle of the night by one of "our" agents. Since you are so close to Minnesota, that would have to be ................ well, never mind.
Framerguy
P.S. Kathy, I gave it my best shot. I hope you appreciate the effort on my part to take you off the hook and post such drivel that the thread suffers a coronary on the spot.
You're welcome.
Which brings us to the second and immediately following post from Framerguy in which he said:
Uh, Bob, what was the question again??
Now this reply to his question has done one or more of the following things:
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- Put the Grumble's clock into an endless loop</font>
- Firmly established me as killer of this thread</font>
- Given Bob reason to wish that he had never asked</font>
- Provided hours of enjoyment</font>
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- Made Framerguy wish that HE never asked</font>
- Has not resulted in the harming of any squirrels</font>
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