Over sized mat

Steph

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Hey there, I need some help or ideas. I have a great customer/ photographer I do quite a bit of work for who needs a mat 22x70. He would prefer 8 ply as well. I know I can get a 48x96 in white 4 ply, does anyone know of 8 ply being availble in that size.

Problem #2 I have a CMC and a 48" cutter so next prob, I don't see how I can do the job for him. I know most of the framers in the area and I can't think of any of them that has equipment to do this. Are there any co's in the supplier/manufacturer in our industry that would do this that I could farm it out to??

Thanks,
Steph
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You can bond two white four ply boards together and cut as usual.

On my disassembled Fletcher 60" cutter I can cut (I think) up to a 64" opening without sliding the bar. The sky's the limit once you have an extra pair of hands to hold/slide the bar to the length you need. Someone's GOT to have a 60"er nearby...?

edie the slidingbar goddess
 
I never thought about disassembling my 48er. I have done something similair with an ancient Keetan that was 40" and you could fully open it and flip'er over. With two people you could do it. I have a Fletcher 2100 I should see about taking her apart...why not I've replaced kitchen/bathroom sinks and faucets. I can do anything! (I think)

Thanks a million
Steph
 
Yup, you can do it for sure, then, with your 48"er- Ive done it many times.

It'll be good for business, too, because once you have that puppy disassembled and strewn about the workshop, a whole wave of new customers will come in through the front door AT THAT VERY MOMENT. Guaranteed.

Read:
http://www.thegrumble.com/cgibin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007899

...for bonding ideas.

Good luck to you and have fun dammmit!

edie
 
By the way, I charge for the two 4 ply mats plus a 'dry mount only' charge which happens to be about 1/2 the price of one 4 ply. I'd also add a bit more labor for taking the cutter apart...

Just fyi...
 
You should be able to get 48" x 72" white (Bainbridge) which would cut costs and waste.
 
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you to all!

From me and my 48'er :D
 
Only problem with the 48x72 and 48x96 baords is most suppliers want you to purchase the whole case (10 sheets). As far as making it a 8ply...you can use super 77 spray to make one. make sure you use plenty of spray. Problem is though you need to have a press big enough to press the two sheets together. Don't drymount or you will see the seem of the two sheets. I'm sure you can use any kind of wet/spray mounting adhesive but the problem will always be weather or not you have a big enough press.
 
brian,
I have bonded the two together with acrylic gloss medium (my new favorite goop) and mounted them in bites in my heat press.

No seam has ever been seen on these.

I have not used 77 spray on anything for at least 20 years. Even a little bit of that spray is too much as far as I am concerned. I value my lungs. JMHO.

edie the breathingproblemsruninmyfamily goddess
 
You can use Nori, but I would mix my own rather than have to open a couple dozen 5gm packs. You don't need heat, but you do need to work quickly and get the boards under weight for a couple of days.
 
The suggestions have been great, much appreciated.

Which method would give me no seam, no discoloration and the least time weighting it down w/out buckling concerns ...the acrylic gloss medium in a heat press? Or should all methods be weighted for a good period of time to be better safe than sorry. Oh yeah and acid free

Steph
 
Steph, if your heat press is a vacuum... the gloss meium is fine...and just run the vacuum for about 10-15 minutes and the thing should be dry as a bone.
 
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