old warped thing

PhotoKris

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Hi. A customer brought me an old diploma (1960) that had previously been mounted to some form of mat board. Not only has the board warped badly, but the diploma is peeling off from the bottom corners, a few inches in (it is 14x17ish) The paper is not torn or discolored, just a bit wrinkly. They would like me to reframe it in a metal without a mat(ill use spacers)... Any suggestions on how to get this either off the board or flat? Did i mention you can also see the indents in the board from the nails that held it into the frame about every 3"?
 
Kris I'd talk 'em into a mat...period!!! absolutely NO reason to have to live with that crummy boarder looking out at the world!

If 'some' of it peels, will the rest of it come off with the usual persuasions???? you might then remount it(after, perhaps, lightly ironing the more wrinkled spots???).
 
the mat is out, she wants it too look like the rest of her horribly framed dimplomas. Ditto with the cheapo metal. And it is stuck on there well. Argh
 
PhotoKris, this is one of those times that I think you should just give the customer exactly what they want: a cheapo metal frame on a horribly mounted diploma. You didn't do the original mount, the customer doesn't wanna pay for it to look good, just stick it in a frame. Hope you are charging for the spacers. Don't put your label on the back.
 
some metal profiles (Nielsen) have almost a half inch lip. Some of the metalline two-tones ones, and if your customer REALLY doesn't want a mat, this will be a little more interesting than a plain old frame while covering some more of that damage.
 
I keep seeing this threads title, and I keep thinking that it's talking about me....
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Of course, this customer is either a doctor or a lawyer.
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Hee hee.. she is an orthodontist, it is her fathers diploma... she wants a very basic black metal so it will match the other diplomas in her office... she is having me put a 1" mat on another one, but still the same basic black clark metal. blah. She said just do what I can, she definitly doesnt want to go the conservator route...

On a better note, I just took in 11 frames from one customer, double mats, fillets, etc. (all different) :)
 
Originally posted by PhotoKris:
she is an orthodontist
As a framer, doesn't it bother you when you go into your doctor's office or accountant, or lawyer, someone you know has some cash, and everything is framed like they bought it at a 5 and 10 shop? Of course, I mention to them that I am a framer, and would love to redo their framing, but it's almost like it doesn't matter to them. A $3000 mahogany desk, and a Kmart frame on the wall.... ugh.
 
Originally posted by framinzfun:
...it's almost like it doesn't matter to them. A $3000 mahogany desk, and a Kmart frame on the wall.... ugh. [/QB]
Almost? Framing really doesn't matter to some people.

Just as we wonder at that, I imagine custom tailors wonder why more people don't buy custom-made clothes, and Rolls Royce and Bentley owners wonder why more people don't appreciate a fine automobile.
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It's all a matter of perspective.
 
Jim, while I DO appreciate a fine automobile, I just can't afford one. But we must remember that proper handling and framing of diplomas and such does not have to be over the top in price.

Also... I don't think my paycheck is ANYWHERE near what my doctor earns. The real problem is that they have not been informed of the "WHY" in custom framing. Sure, it might look a little more professional, but they don't know about the damage that will occur with impropper frmaing.
 
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