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Message: [QUOTE="Rick Granick, post: 1063996, member: 1458"] Welcome to the Grumble. I agree with Prospero's advice. Check on the Commercial forum here, as good used equipment is posted frequently. There are also a couple of companies that buy and sell used framing equipment. As for work surface, you pretty much have to build that yourself. If you make your tabletop high enough for comfortable working, you should have space underneath to store matboards vertically, resting on their long sides. For many of us, space is at a premium, and I have built my fixtures to serve multiple purposes. If you use the Grumble's search function, you should find discussions of shop fixtures and workspaces. :cool: Rick [/QUOTE]