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What is the nomenclature for a presentation whereby the art is matted but the mat opening is larger than the art so that the edges of the print are revealed ?
Example attached below - thanks.
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Float

Ok my understanding was that, to be a float mat, the art has to be raised with respect to the backing so that it appears to float in the frame. In this case, it is just museum-mounted to the backing though. Do I have it wrong ?
 
Float mounting can be flat to the board or suspended.

The float part just means that the edges are not trapped down by the mat.
 
prospero said:
What's a nomenclature? :popc:
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no⋅men⋅cla⋅ture
Pronunciation [noh-muhn-kley-cher, noh-men-kluh-cher, -choor]
–noun
1. a set or system of names or terms, as those used in a particular science or art, by an individual or community, etc.
2. the names or terms comprising a set or system.
 
Beveled said:
no⋅men⋅cla⋅ture
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Out here we just assume youall are talking about the Lesbian bar.... No Men Culture. :D The guys haven't come up with any names cuter than He Rose (Rose City.... ) :icon11:

Just thought I'd float that one out there.....

With mat or no mat, it's still a floater. The mat just makes it look nicer, and is a better separator in both looks and function.
 
Baer I thought it was an all woman politcal motion, a no-men cloture resolution ;) But went with nomen closure, more obtuse.....
 
FWIW. I have a picture gallery on my website that is titled “Float Mounts”. People were asking what that meant so I added this description.

Float Mounting
A Framing Technique That Allows The Edges Of The Artwork To Be Seen.
Often Accompanied By A Pedestal Mount Which Lifts The Artwork Off The Bottom Mat.
This Gives The Illusion That The Artwork Is Floating In The Frame.​
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Seems to have worked for me.

Clive.
 
Is my language outdated? I asked a framer the other day if the art was "set back" or "flush fit." Her reply was, "I don't know what that means." I have been in the business for a very long time and actually this framer has been in business for more than 10 years. I was surprised...shocked that she had no clue what I was talking about, so have I lost touch or are these terms still viable?
 
Lo, the terms are viable, but their education is not.

Way to often, I run across more and more framers that hold to the philosophy that they are making money, they are a success so they don't need/want to learn more. They also are "slaves" to their stores 5/6 days a week and staying out late on a Wednesday night and talk or listen to more framing is just to much like work..... and spending the money to go sit in classes is just too much to ask much less the expense of "going to a convention" and being around other framers who may be their competition.

We've seen this before.... when the lack of education impacts the industry the industry suffers. They don't read the informative articles, they don't take the classes, they don't go to conventions......

I asked my florist (34 years in the neighborhood) if they have chapters and classes and conventions like PPFA...... she was aghast that picture framers had a professional society.
She goes to a "chapter meeting" almost every other week, (about an hour or so of social and sharing tips or new things to do with flowers.... or new flowers) and then attends the two floral conventions a year for lots of education and hands on stuff. [she said that through the year she moves about 120 different "seasonal" flowers/plants along with the all year long 40 favorites and she orders all of them by their "correct" names so she gets the right colors and size........ I guess they don't have SKUs. :D]
 
Then again we also have customers making up new terms all the time. Just yesterday I had a request for "dry matting," and "Flush mounting" (no frame). No doubt if I had asked if she wanted it floated, she would have told me not to use water.

Now is the part where you tell me those are both acceptable terms and I need to come to class :)
 
MabSadie2 said:
I had a request for "dry matting," and "Flush mounting" (no frame).
Now is the part where you tell me those are both acceptable terms and I need to come to class :)
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Ooooh.. you missed it. And Hugh covered it very well too. Even IF he didn't get too in depth.... and barely scratched the surface.

I think this year he mentioned going over "static hinging" and "wet glazing". :icon11:
 
Another area of ambiguity is slips/liners etc.

This is how I classify them....

A Slip is a flat mouding that goes inside a frame either over or under any glass.

A Liner is like slip, but has a rabbet. But if the liner is wider than the outer frame, it becomes a Panel. :icon21:

A Fillet is like a slip, but has a raised lip on the upper surface.

That's my take on it anyhow. A guy I knew once insisted on calling slips "stretchers".

Then there are Swept frames. Any frames with ornaments on the corners tend to get labelled as swept frames. But I do believe the 'swept' part refers to the profile of the base moulding that is like a breaking wave. So you could have a swept frame with no ornaments at all. :)

Most of the time, when it comes to terminolgy, it's a case of "I hear what you say, but I know what you mean". Someone once asked me if I did self-portraits of dogs........:(
 
Baer Charlton said:
Lo, the terms are viable, but their education is not.

Way to often, I run across more and more framers that hold to the philosophy that they are making money, they are a success so they don't need/want to learn more. They also are "slaves" to their stores 5/6 days a week and staying out late on a Wednesday night and talk or listen to more framing is just to much like work..... and spending the money to go sit in classes is just too much to ask much less the expense of "going to a convention" and being around other framers who may be their competition.

We've seen this before.... when the lack of education impacts the industry the industry suffers. They don't read the informative articles, they don't take the classes, they don't go to conventions......
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Not to frankenthread here, but Baer, I just had to say it may not be that simple. I probably fall into your category of framers who attend very few classes, but my reason is my poor health. Every ounce of energy I have goes into my business, and I don't know if I will be able to continue each year. But I can say that I read trade magazines cover to cover and when I want to learn a new technique, I look for an article and use it to learn what I need to learn.

I desperately wanted to attend your class in Lansing but I ended up spending the weekend including Monday and Tuesday in bed. Sometimes life gets in the way, that doesnt make me a bad framer.
 
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