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Rogatory

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
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This was in our local paper last week:

Old News
How To Preserve
Your Favorite
News Clippings​

To make a favorite news clipping
last for decades, dissolve a milk of
a magnesia tablet in a quart of club
soda overnight. Pour the mixture
into a pan large enough for the
flattened news item. Next, soak
the clipping for one hour; remove
and pat dry. Allow it to dry
completely before moving again.
This method can make newspaper
articles last up to 200 years. ​

:shrug:​
 
I've done it. Had to iron the newspaper afterwards.

Check back with me in 200 years and I'll let you know how it worked.

Kit
 
that's interesting...but brings up many questions:
magnesia tablets(can we still buy tablets???) would certainly deal with the acid I'd think, but soak the paper for an hour?....don't I remember that's kinda what we did for paper mache in grade school???? and as I remember that wasn't tooo good on the paper--it kinda went to mush if tooo wet/tooo long...really have to handle with(no pun intended) kids gloves.
and won't the really wet paper want to wrinkle/cockle upon drying w/o weight and what kinds of problems will the weight cause to the surface of the paper and whatever is used as a blotter(& what would we use as a blotter?)???? maybe just puting it down on something slick/flat/glass would tend to keep it flat?(but there's the problem of it sticking to the glass as it dries & how to get it off w/o damage)
anyone every done something like this??
Hugh???? opinion/education on the process here please?
 
An interesting way to add magnesium carbonate to the paper. Drying with blotter is probably best. Adding an alkaline reserve to newsprint
should protect it from acid hydrolysis, but there is still the question about
the peroxides that UV will generate as it degrades the lignin in the paper.
We know that the peroxides will darken the paper, how much they will weaken
the paper is less clearly understood. This is a very complicated topic.


Hugh
 
I can't recall the exact formula but way back when, I saw a recipe ( it may have been in Paul Fredricks books to use Milk of Bismuth . It was supposed to be a substitue for Wei Tai Solution. But as Hugh warns and as I remeber even Wei Tai isn't permanent and reverses over time. ( can you say Calcium Carbonate impregantion/CHALK ?)

Hugh correct my errors but isn't that what Buffering is and why it doesn't last and why they normally buffer it much higher than need be?
BUDDY
 
Seal the whole paper in the back of a frame!

We found a complete copy of 'The London Pictorial' from 1922 in the back of an old frame last week - it was perfect, bar the bit against the wooden backboard, which was still in 'good condition'

Wrote off most of the morning just reading the adverts! Seemed in those days you just added 'O' to what the product did.

Rinso
Glitto
Brasso (still going of course)

etc etc

FRAMO
LMAO!!!!
 
Scan at 300dpi, print with archival ink on 100% rag paper.

I'd leave the milk of gagnesia in the med cabinet. :vomit:
 
Ditto. Baer has the answers today. If it's too precious, no way I'd soak it...:kaffeetrinker_2:
 
Just to set the record straight, the formulas I and others mentioned were very old substitutions for things like Wei Tai Solution and I and I know Hugh doesn't truly recommend any of them as a method of truly preserving anything ( especially of any real value) i think my comments and those of Hugh pointed out their shortcomings.

Furthermore I know Hugh and a few other conservation minded people have long ago suggested Photo coping news articles onto better grade paper to frame them and storing away the ORIGINAL in properly prepared containers away from the environment and UV light.Even if only obtainning a Vlock from the same newspaper for things like sports articles.

But it is interesting IMO to see why some of those deacidification processes work ( or don't) and what they actually are and how they work for the limited time they do have an effect.

Even more interesting to me is how similar the Magnesia /Bismuth soaking is to Calcium Carbonate ( chalk) impregnation in order to buffer any paper born materials. But of course soak paper has some very serious risk and should be done with the utmost care to make it even work temporarily.

But then any right thinking framer knew that before I said a word.
BUDDY
 
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