Newbie Framer has question about linen liners

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ScottG

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I've started framing my own canvases but I've run into a road block. My sawblade chews through the fabric on my linen-wrapped liners but cuts through the wood moulding like a hot knife through butter. How do I get nice clean cuts on the linen liners?
 
I get my best corners using a chopper with linen.
I got decent corners using a high speed pistoious saw but with a regular miter saw you might try a fine really sharp blade. Also chop some scrap wood with it first to get any oil off the blade before you get it near the linen.
I hope this helped.
 
In trying to think how I would cut liners without a chopper, I think I would use a mitre box and a real fine hand saw.

I might even cut through the linen first mat an exacto knive to spare the fibres from the assault of the teeth of the blade!

Or apply tape over the linen and cut with the chop saw. Might not work for linen, but a similar method protects a chrome shower head from the teeth of a pipe wrench.
 
We routinely cut linen liners with our 12" diameter, 100 tooth, carbide-tipped blades. No problems. Could it be you need more teeth?

Have you tried other brands of linen liners? Or if are you wrapping your own liners, have you tried other linen?
 
You did not indicate what style of blade you have. A triple chip blade made specifically for moulding will work best and as Jim expressed, 100 tooth or there abouts.
 
If you are using 80 tooth blades on a 10" saw, after you cut your miters on each leg of the liner, you can lay the fibers that are sticking out over the face of the cut miter and run it on a miter sander a few turns to shear off the fibers. I used to use a rubber sanding block with 150 grit open coat dry paper (the white paper with the "tide lines" in the abrasive)and gently sand them off which worked fine.

Framerguy
 
One thing to watch out for on the miter sander, though, is to clean the disk with the rubber cleaning block before using it for linen. Otherwise, the grit of sawdust and tinted gesso in the sandpaper will "tint" the ends of your liner's miters.
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Rick
 
Good idea, Rick.

I actually have never done this on a miter sander, Ron bought the last one they had when I DID want one!
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But it sounded like it would work to me.

FGII
 
Scott,

Order the chops hand wrapped from Frank's Fabric for Framers.

Why limit yourself and your customers to just the same old boring oatmeal and white linen when there are over 600 fabrics and colors available.

1-888-332-2749, say hi to Frank. Say good-bye to frustration.
 
Before my chopper, I used to cut liners on the saw. I then would lay them upside down and trim the frayed edge with an Exacto knife. Worked fine for me.
 
Thanks to everyone for their helpful hints. I've tried all of your suggestions but the idea that worked the best was to use a chopper. I got a chance to see one in action today and I'm really impressed. I've been scouring the internet looking for the best deal and so far I've come up with a guillotine chopper from framingsupplies.com for $1495. Does anyone know of other suppliers?
 
If you wrap your own liners, join the corners first and then wrap the liner. . .no mitre lines.
 
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