My United Disc Sander came....

Julie-Tulie

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My United Disc Sander came yesterday! It was to be out of stock until Dec. 1st. Only problem is that there are no instructions with it. United said they sill send them to me asap but intil that happens, how does it work!
 
I'm assuming you need assembly instructions, because operating instructions are:

"Turn the handle."

As I recall, assembly instructions run something like ...

1) bolt base to table.
2) put sanding disk on face of metal disk.
3) bolt handle to metal disk.
4) bolt metal disk to base.
5) proceed to operating instructions.

the pictures are the important part, and I don't have any ... sorry.
 
Pardon my ignorance, but why would you need this device? If your miters aren't right, isn't that something to do with the saw/chopper that needs adjusted?

I'm not happy with my miters, perhaps I need a sander, but I think it's from using a compound sliding miter saw.
John
 
Once you follow Cliff's assembly instructions:

1. On each cut end of the moulding, make three vertical pencil marks. One at the edge of the rabbet, one at the back and one in the middle.

2. Place the moulding back against the fence.

3. Turn the handle and press the end of the moulding against the disk. Sand *just* until all the pencil marks are gone.

4. Lift the black knob, turn the fence and lock in place. Repeat sanding for the other four ends.


The sander isn't usually 100% necessary. A good chopper/saw with good true 45 degree angles goes a long way toward good corners. But even then, a swipe on the sander will give you corners sent down from heaven. Many framers spend an entire career without one and do a great job, but every framer I know who has one swears by it and would never do without.
 
I usually just watch for the sawdust to "accumulate across the top of the moulding." Not perfect solution like Dave's, but a little faster. Also, I have set the sander up on a cabinet that allows me to place all four legs next to the sander. Then, I sand eash leg on one end, move the sander bar, and sand the other four ends. Just a little faster production.

Sorry if I seemed a little flip earlier, but I am not sure what you are really asking. It is a very straight forward machine.

The only other thing you might need to know is how to calibrate it. You can see adjustment allen screws that hold the bar at the proper angle. Just lay a triabngle against the bar (fence) so it touches the disk and adjust the screws. Again, not trying to be flip, but it is pretty obvious if you study it a little.
 
Cliff...I'm not sure what I'm asking for either, but I think my questions have been answered bay all of you above.
I agree that if my chopper is out of alignment it needs adjustment but unfortunately, I do not have a chopper or saw, but order all my chops chopped. I have dealt with all that stuff at other places I worked and I would just as soon let someone else deal with the waste, warped moulding, and storage space. But with that, it means that I also have to deal with someone elses chops, thus the sander.
I do think that my sander needs some adjustment because I can't get that angled piece to flip/slip to the other side, but am unsure if there are if I will mess up the calibrations if I mess with it.
 
"can't get that angled piece to flip/slip to the other side"

I know this may sound funny, but try turning it the other way. In one direction it will "hit the anchor points." I don't know if that makes sense or not?

It does turn on the center bolt right? If not, loosen that bolt JUST A LITTLE and see if that helps. Where is it binding?
 
Good Luck Julie,

and John, I acquired my sander after my first holiday season and the vendors got a little sloppy with their chops. It's much easier/faster/cheaper to hit them with a sander than reorder, putty, or put out less than quality corners.
 
I think I've got it!!!!!
This thing is FANTASTIC!Thanks for your help, Cliff...I really appreciate it!
YIPPIE!!!
 
An anal side-note:

I had been using cloth-backed sanding disks (with my AMP sander), and had noticed that occasionally the sanding was not uniform. After talking to my supplier of disks, I was informed that the cloth-backed disks are designed for more industrial applications than ours (high revs, doncha know...) .. and therefore, the disks may not be of uniform thickness. Further, I was told that the paper-backed disks were "flatter".

I have since been using the aforementioned paper-backed disks and have been enlightened.....they ARE better, given the slow cranks that we use.

They also seem to unclog a lot quicker than the others (go figure..)

MORAL: Buy paper-backed disks.
 
Originally posted by JohnR:
Pardon my ignorance, but why would you need this device? If your miters aren't right, isn't that something to do with the saw/chopper that needs adjusted?

I'm not happy with my miters, perhaps I need a sander, but I think it's from using a compound sliding miter saw.
John
Not all frames that you join/unjoin/rejoin are frames that you cut/built in the first place.

Side note- I find it odd that this is coming up so much, as our boss just procured one of these.
 
Originally posted by FramingFool:
After talking to my supplier of disks, I was informed that the cloth-backed disks are designed for more industrial applications than ours (high revs, doncha know...) .. and therefore, the disks may not be of uniform thickness. Further, I was told that the paper-backed disks were "flatter".
That holds true for any "sandpaper" product. We use paper belts on our belt sanders for exactly the same reason - they are flatter and more uniform. Cloth has better longevity and it's tougher, so it holds up better in situations where it's prone to damage, but for the ultimate finish paper is the way to go.
 
David, I just went to your site! Beautiful wood!
I sent for a catalog and am really looking forward to recieving it...absolutely beautiful!
 
United #2260P is the cloth-backed disks ... if you're interested in the paper-backed ones, I have a source for them... message me.

Hint To United: start carrying the paper-backed disks...and offer different grits ... like 80, for example...
 
What is the item number on that sander?
I found the #2260 for $598.00
I thought united had a cheaper house brand one?
 
I had to ask them which one because it was not in my catalog either...they knew which one I wanted...it's 269.00
 
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