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clifpa

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Hi all,

Would someone be so kind as to explain, in some detail (maybe by phone?) the correct procedure for mounting a Hockey Jersey?

I have cut an insert of 1/8" foam core and fit it inside the jersey. I will be wanting to attach this to a mat board for sure and then add another foam core as the final backing.

Do you just start with the insert and back of the jersey and when that's done...

HELP, I'm :confused:

Thanking you in advance
 
I'm sinking to the bottom of the list...oooohhhhh what a cruel world........wink.
 
poor cliff

i don't know about attach-ez, but when i inserted 4-ply in my (a) jersey, i pulled down the back of the collar and sleeves and stapled the insert through the backing board (not the jersey). as the staples stuck through the back board, i bent them over with a screw driver to help secure them. worked great for me.


maybe everybody is at emibub's wedding, cept us

[ 01-20-2004, 06:53 PM: Message edited by: lessafinger ]
 
Originally posted by clifpa:
Would someone be so kind as to explain, in some detail (maybe by phone?) the correct procedure for mounting a Hockey Jersey?
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Actually, Cliffie, I would not advise doing this at all! The guys who are usually inside those hockey jerseys punch REALLY hard!! :eek:

(Guess Cliffie hasn't watched a professional hockey game lately)

Framerguy

P.S. I DO have some advice for you but can't post it right now. I promise that kyou will be a jersey mounting genius when this thread is over.
 
Cliff,

Brian here in Mission Viejo! I hope everything is going good for you and your new venture. Things are on pace over here.

I do a bunch of jerseys, being that hockey is my hobby / life and I am a coach at the Aliso Viejo rink. So, get your good chair and prepare for a little bit of time on this one. 2-4 working hours is about what it takes me doing the following procedure, which has been very well received by my customers. There is a reason they cost sooo much.

I charge $100 for the mount alone.

Sizing - Fold the Jersey as you desire. I like this way (I will email the pictures. I can't figure out how to add them here.). Then measure elbow fold to elbow fold, top to bottom. I like two inches ATWA for mat spacing.

Make your frame to size, join and let dry. I like Studio 23601 for the jerseys, perfect size for the one inch spacers your going to need to make.

Mat board - Size your mat board to the frame.

Jersey filler board - Size a sheet of 1/8 foam board to fit in the center of the jersey. Remember, the jersey will stretch and you should size your board appropriately to slightly stretch the jersey for a nice flat center of the jersey finish.

Mounting - The fun part! Go buy some matching thread, needles and a thimble. Now sit down and begin sewing rigth through the jersey and foam board through the backing mat board. Ever since school house rock came out, I have always thought that 3 was the magic number, so I loop the thread through the jersey 3 times and tie on the back side of the mat. Sew in already existing thread lines from the jersey to hide your mounting thread. Once again on the 3 theme, I generally sew 3 times on the top and bottom, then move on to the sleeves. The jersey I did this morning has 14 sew points in all.

Fit to frame - Make 1" spacers out of black foam. I like to cover these with Raven Blackcore mat as well. Nice look. Or another nice touch is to match the backing board for your spacers.

Use Acrylic for your glazing. I am assuming your jersey is going to be in the range of 40-44 x 34-38.

Finish the back off as needed.

Call me when you are getting ready to work on it and I can give you a hand through the process. If you choose to go this route.
 
Attach-EZ is great for mounting athletic jerseys. Aside from the speed of attachment, only a few (a dozen or so) attachments are needed, they are very strong, and they don't have to show.

1. Trim a filler made of alphacellulose board, so that it fits snugly inside the jersey. If the sleeves are to be folded and secured, do that after the filler is inserted, installing the from behind, or inside the sleeves. No attachments show.

2. Position the filled jersey on the mount board.

3. Reach into the jersey from the neck hole, tail, and maybe the sleeves. Using a needle or small nail, poke holes through the back-seams and the mount board. These holes mark the spots for attachment from the back. Place them along the top seams, a couple near the sleeves, and a few at the bottom. Long sleeves also require two or three attachments.

4. Install the long, heavy-duty nylon attachments through the holes, from the back of the mount board, being careful that they go through the chosen seams.

5. After all the attachments are installed, check to see if the jersey shifts around too much. Usually, it will be OK as-is. But if you need to limit its movement, try one of these ways on the back of the mount board:
A. Pull each attachment tight, add a dab of glue, and then cap that with tape to hold until the glue dries.
B. Loop thread or string around each attachment, and pull them tight like shoelaces. Tie off the thread.
 
Originally posted by Jim Miller:
Attach-EZ is great for mounting athletic jerseys. Aside from the speed of attachment, only a few (a dozen or so) attachments are needed, they are very strong, and they don't have to show.

1. Trim a filler made of alphacellulose board, so that it fits snugly inside the jersey. If the sleeves are to be folded and secured, do that after the filler is inserted, installing the from behind, or inside the sleeves. No attachments show.

2. Position the filled jersey on the mount board.

3. Reach into the jersey from the neck hole, tail, and maybe the sleeves. Using a needle or small nail, poke holes through the back-seams and the mount board. These holes mark the spots for attachment from the back. Place them along the top seams, a couple near the sleeves, and a few at the bottom. Long sleeves also require two or three attachments.

4. Install the long, heavy-duty nylon attachments through the holes, from the back of the mount board, being careful that they go through the chosen seams. They should penetrate the mount board, the back of the jersey, and the filler board. They should not penetrate the front fabric of the jersey. Therefore, they will not be seen.

NOTE: The filler board supports the jersey, and the attachments support the filler board. Do not rely on the few attachments to support the jersey directly. Let the board do that.

5. After all the attachments are installed, check to see if the jersey shifts around too much. Usually, it will be OK as-is. But if you need to limit its movement, try one of these ways on the back of the mount board:
A. Pull each attachment tight, add a dab of glue, and then cap that with tape to hold until the glue dries.
B. Loop thread or string around each attachment, and pull them tight like shoelaces. Tie off the thread.
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Hey, Emibus didn't ask me if she could get married! :confused:

Thanks Less, Tom, Brian and of course my favorite teacher, Jim Miller!

Tom my friend, I didn't get it (don't very often at my age...wink) "Actually, Cliffie, I would not advise doing this at all! The guys who are usually inside those hockey jerseys punch REALLY hard!!"

Less, I think I missed something here also, staples but not through the material?

Brian, Nice talking with you again. I'll call you today. Want to go over you Las Vegas plans. I will print your jersey pictures when I get to the office today. They do look great! Nice job.

Jim, very detailed as usual. Are you attaching from the backside (where you place the holes) just to attach the form (insert) and back of jersey to the mat board and then working from the front to attach the whole package? Ouch, big question.

Thanks to all and a Merry........yea, well just snap your fingers and it will be here again, time is just flying by these days.


(Actually, Cliffie, I would not advise doing this at all! The guys who are usually inside those hockey jerseys punch REALLY hard!!) I didn't get it?)
 
Sorry, Cliffie, I knew I risked ridicule bky posting some of my "Warped" humor on a straight forum like Grumble. I had this picture of you hiding on top of the Zambonie machine until some hapless hockey player came skating by and ................ well, you get the picture, I'm sure.

(Ya know, "mounting" the jersey ........ with the hockey player still in it!) :eek:


If you have an attaching gun, Jim's method is probably the easiest and most secure to use for your jersey. I would think that if you get a good fit on the liner of the jersey you could attach the body down securely by running your attaching "T's" directly through the foam core or rag board liner from the back. Then simply tack down any other portions of the jersey like the sleeves that need to be held in place and you will have a nice looking presentation.

The method that I have used is more like the one that Brian explained in his post. I like to incorporate the team colors in the shadowbox when I can so you may want to consider that as one possibility to enhance the shadowbox.

If you have any photos or a hockey program to mount in the shadowbox, kyou can use the contrasting color (the other team color to the one that you used for the backing color) to float mount those items.

Good luck and stay off those Zambonie machines!!

Framerguy
 
Tom wrote: "Ya know, "mounting" the jersey ........ with the hockey player still in it"

No problem Tom, just have to charge more, say $400 for the normal stuff and another $500 for the hockey player.
(could put a Cliff Wilson latch on the frame so his wife could open the door and feed him once-in-awhile) :D :D
 
There is a section in the Attach-EZ directions that addresses mounting when a precut form instert is used. It is just below the shirt diragram in red. If your directions don't have it then you got one of the earlier kits. You can call your distributor and they can get the new instructions for you.
 
Originally posted by clifpa:
...Jim, very detailed as usual. Are you attaching from the backside (where you place the holes) just to attach the form (insert) and back of jersey to the mat board and then working from the front to attach the whole package? Ouch, big question.
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The nylon attachments are inserted from the back of the mount board, through the pre-punched holes. Whenever possible, attach through an existing seam.

You could, after mounting the jersey, attach your mount board to another board (unseen) as a reinforcement.

Be careful to place the attachments through the mount board, through the back of the jersey and the filler board, but not through the front of the jersey.
 
Brian,

I dont even know you, but I feel that I love you.

What a wonderful description you layed out. I have been in a quandry for days now about this blessed jersey. I shall follow your detailed instructions exactly.

thank you thank you thank you.

This is why I love the Grumble... for moments like this...

I can do this now.
 
Now I feel like I have stepped through one of those "Portals" that send you into a time warp!!

It sounds like Cliffie has given up on his hockey jersey, shipped it over to Peavy, and now the Texan framer is doing the job!!

Did I miss something here??

Framerguy
 
NO, Framerguy, you havent missed anything.
I have a jersey job too and have been spying several threads until I found an explanation that I understand.

I just had to express my appreciation. Sorry for the interuption.
 
Peavy,

No offense meant, I was just pulling on Cliffie's chain a little bit.

He needs to have somebody keep an occasional eye on him or he gets carried away and breaks out the white glue and starts squirting away!! :D ;)

Framerguy
 
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