Mounting Star Fish
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Lori Drugan
SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
starfish
Hi Jim,
I don't think I would reccomend an adhesive. Think about pinning them like we do with butterflies, or sewing them down.
Lori
Hi Jim,
I don't think I would reccomend an adhesive. Think about pinning them like we do with butterflies, or sewing them down.
Lori
Val
PFG, Picture Framing God
Star fish are very brittle, and I think pinning or sewing would cause damage, unless you used a monofiliment around the arms. How about little clear plastic mounts like Might-Mounts in their arm-...uh...star-pit areas?
(Psssst Jim...love your Jellybeans!)
(Psssst Jim...love your Jellybeans!)
I'm sure they would fall apart if I pinned them. Sewing might do the same. But, good suggestions. I'll take a look at Mighty Mounts to see if they would fit. If I end up having to use an adhesive, is there a recommendation?
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
kevaura
CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
I have used a product called" Eileens super tacky" craft glue while framing 2 6" sand dollars for my brother in laws condo 12 years ago and it has held great.
fredricktheartist
Grumbler in Training
elmers bond 527 will do the trick
FLM
FLM
Paul N
SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
3 Star fish?? There is no such thing. Maybe the others broke??
Or a new species!
Or a new species!
Baer Charlton
SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Great cat Paul...
Jim, I'm looking at a Star fish that I glued down with white glue about 38 years ago...
One of these days, I need to get some glass on it.
But if you need to make this even more difficult than it really is..... there is a wonderfull glue that is made from shimp shells. Oregon Health Sciences University has been experimenting with it since they invented it aobut 12 years ago.
It is VERY sticky and is pH neutral. It is made to glue Tarsic skin [manmade skin] to the oozing wound of burn victums.
I'm sure that if you plead with them, they will maybe sell you some 5-10 ccs just as soon as it gets out of "trials".
I'm sure your customer will understand.:sleep:
PVA/white glue, Jim... white glue.
Jim, I'm looking at a Star fish that I glued down with white glue about 38 years ago...
One of these days, I need to get some glass on it.
But if you need to make this even more difficult than it really is..... there is a wonderfull glue that is made from shimp shells. Oregon Health Sciences University has been experimenting with it since they invented it aobut 12 years ago.
It is VERY sticky and is pH neutral. It is made to glue Tarsic skin [manmade skin] to the oozing wound of burn victums.
I'm sure that if you plead with them, they will maybe sell you some 5-10 ccs just as soon as it gets out of "trials".
I'm sure your customer will understand.:sleep:
PVA/white glue, Jim... white glue.
Frankidadio
CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
Starfish
If the bottom of the starfish has an access or if you can make one I would fill them with a little expandable polyurethane foam, like "Great Stuff" available at Home Depot, Then I would hot glue them to anything you like. I assume the customer wants to preserve and display them, not treat them as valuable fine art. You might spread white glue on a piece of matboard and cover it with sand as a background, maybe even build it up against the shadowbox sides to give it a natural look. I worked on a natural history museum for the USFWS and we mounted all sorts of plant and animal materials in life size walk through dioramas and used all sorts of materials. Hot glue, white glue and foam are indispensable.
If the bottom of the starfish has an access or if you can make one I would fill them with a little expandable polyurethane foam, like "Great Stuff" available at Home Depot, Then I would hot glue them to anything you like. I assume the customer wants to preserve and display them, not treat them as valuable fine art. You might spread white glue on a piece of matboard and cover it with sand as a background, maybe even build it up against the shadowbox sides to give it a natural look. I worked on a natural history museum for the USFWS and we mounted all sorts of plant and animal materials in life size walk through dioramas and used all sorts of materials. Hot glue, white glue and foam are indispensable.
JbNormandog
SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
I don't have a glue recomendation but this site may be helpful for future projects.
http://www.thistothat.com/cgi-bin/glue.cgi?lang=en&this=this&that=that
http://www.thistothat.com/cgi-bin/glue.cgi?lang=en&this=this&that=that
Val
PFG, Picture Framing God
I tried that one, there is no "Starfish" selection in either menu. Or Dead Crustations, or Animal Body Parts. Don't they know who we are?? (Framers, that's who we are!) We are called upon to glue any number of very odd this's to that's on a regular basis.
Good thing for The Grumble, eh?
(I know I'll be sorry for asking this, but no-one's mentioned it yet...why wouldn't silicone seal be okay for this starfish?? Too porous?)
Good thing for The Grumble, eh?
(I know I'll be sorry for asking this, but no-one's mentioned it yet...why wouldn't silicone seal be okay for this starfish?? Too porous?)
Tacky Glue is will reactivate if it gets wet... in other words, if you are worried that it might need to be removed that would be a good choice. HOWEVER, if they are planning on hanging it in a bathroom, the starfish would fall off. Silicone glue works quite well on starfish.
The real question here is, is this a piece that will be hung in a moist area?
Would the starfish ever need to be removed?
Is this just a pretty thing to hang?
If it is going in a bathroom, never going to be removed, and just needs to be pretty, use silicone.
If it is going to hang in the living room, might need to be removed, but still is just pretty, use Tacky glue.
If this is going in a museum, must be removed, and is irreplaceable, use mylar / brass rods / thread /or a sink mat.
Remember, we are not magicians. We are framers, and sometimes the mount MUST show. Just don't get carried away when it's just something to make the bathroom pretty.
The real question here is, is this a piece that will be hung in a moist area?
Would the starfish ever need to be removed?
Is this just a pretty thing to hang?
If it is going in a bathroom, never going to be removed, and just needs to be pretty, use silicone.
If it is going to hang in the living room, might need to be removed, but still is just pretty, use Tacky glue.
If this is going in a museum, must be removed, and is irreplaceable, use mylar / brass rods / thread /or a sink mat.
Remember, we are not magicians. We are framers, and sometimes the mount MUST show. Just don't get carried away when it's just something to make the bathroom pretty.
Val
PFG, Picture Framing God
I just realized that I have 2 big starfish framed, hanging in my own bathroom! (Duh ! Things become "invisible" after 7 or 8 years!).
One glued with silicone, the other with Elmers regular white glue, as I remember. Both still hanging in there, both still equally stuck on, no glass, attached to matboard in their little round frames. And a huge sand dollar, that one's on with silicone. Mentioning that, I'm kinda surprised the Elmer's one is still stuck on. I just checked it, it's tight.
One glued with silicone, the other with Elmers regular white glue, as I remember. Both still hanging in there, both still equally stuck on, no glass, attached to matboard in their little round frames. And a huge sand dollar, that one's on with silicone. Mentioning that, I'm kinda surprised the Elmer's one is still stuck on. I just checked it, it's tight.