moulding storage
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j Paul
PFG, Picture Framing God
I think you will find that most moulding distributors store their mouldings vertical. There is less chance of mouldings being scratched, less chance of warpage. Vertical storage does, if you are not careful, allow shorts to get lost behind other taller sticks.
I store my moulding vertical. I screwed 1x4 cleats to the wall low/med/high, they have matching holes drilled at 3" spacing into which I insert 1/4" fiberglass rods (about 12" long - actually these are cut-up driveway markers from the home store). I move the rods what ever distance apart I need for that particular group of moulding.
Some here have some horz. storage build out of PVC gutters and hangers.
I store my moulding vertical. I screwed 1x4 cleats to the wall low/med/high, they have matching holes drilled at 3" spacing into which I insert 1/4" fiberglass rods (about 12" long - actually these are cut-up driveway markers from the home store). I move the rods what ever distance apart I need for that particular group of moulding.
Some here have some horz. storage build out of PVC gutters and hangers.
I used to store moulding vertically in the original location. I built 2'x4' rectangular platforms with 4'x8' particle board A-frames, so I could store on both sides. In these platform racks, whihc were about 8-1/2 feet tall, the moulding stood at a slight angle toward the center at the top. In order to keep the sticks separated, I screwed on plastic rain gutters vertically, 6" apart. That worked OK.
In the new location I screwed white 60 plastic rain gutters horizontally to the four walls in our 12'L x 10'W x12'H saw room. We need an 8' ladder to get to the top gutters, but this method is much better for storing short pieces. No problems with damage to mouldings. Overall, I like horizontal storage better than vertical.
It seems warping is more of a problem in vertical storage than in horizontal storage.
In the new location I screwed white 60 plastic rain gutters horizontally to the four walls in our 12'L x 10'W x12'H saw room. We need an 8' ladder to get to the top gutters, but this method is much better for storing short pieces. No problems with damage to mouldings. Overall, I like horizontal storage better than vertical.
It seems warping is more of a problem in vertical storage than in horizontal storage.
Jim - could you post a photo of your system? thanks
I appreciate your help. I recently inherited a framing shop with approximately 75000 LF of moulding. The garage is roughly 22x24. Do you have any suggestions regarding the layout of the shop? I have to fit all operations into this area. I suppose layout depends on storage of materials, eh?
Let me get the facts straight(I think all the Grumble readers are all a bit confused)..... You want to operate a complete frame shop (storage, work benches, equipment, sales area) out of one building(location - garage - shop - whatever) and you have 75,000 ft of moulding? What percent of that 22' x 24' are you allocating to the moulding?
From my gut feelings, it can't be done with the data that you are giving us. Is this moulding boxed, loose.... how many patterns .... is there a second floor or two....What about off site storage for some of that moulding.
From my gut feelings, it can't be done with the data that you are giving us. Is this moulding boxed, loose.... how many patterns .... is there a second floor or two....What about off site storage for some of that moulding.
Val
PFG, Picture Framing God
My first frame shop was connected with a furniture store. Moulding storage was in the warehouse area, like a very large garage), stored horizontally in the ceiling rafters. Saved a lot of room. Of course, that was back in the days when I could climb a ladder and hang on while I pulled the lengths out. Not comfortable, but it worked.
Not 75,000 feet worth though. You might need to rent yourself a storage unit nearby.
Not 75,000 feet worth though. You might need to rent yourself a storage unit nearby.
stud d
SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
Many vendors have both storage. The vertical pieces are for faster moving items say 30 day turn over. The horizontal are better for longer storage as they have more support. Decide what is best for you. It is easier to do vertical, but make sure it is supported all the way up the stick.
PL
PL
PaulSF
PFG, Picture Framing God
With 75,000 feet of moulding, you might want to go into the distribution business!
I hope a reasonable percentage of that is in styles that appeal to current tastes.
Rick
P.S. I wouldn't want to have to pay the tax on that inventory.
RickP.S. I wouldn't want to have to pay the tax on that inventory.
Leslie S.
MGF, Master Grumble Framer
I have both horizontal and vertical storage. Incidentally, both systems were obtained from fellow grumblers!
For the horizontal, you can't beat Jim Miller's gutter system. In fact, next week I am going to add a few more of those. This is where I stock most of my "in stock" moulding, also I have a row of gutters marked from 0-9 for orders waiting to be cut. This corresponds to the last number of the customers work order.
For the vertical, (and I appologize that I cannot remember from whom I stole this idea) I hung peg board high up near the ceiling and used metal hangers that stick out about 10 inches. I screw large screweyes into the end of the stick of moulding and slide it over the metal hanger. The moulding is now suspended off the floor, and it is easy to look ttrough these for a pattern. Mostly this system is used for left-over sticks from non-stock orders.
Unfortunately, I still have lots boxes of "shorts" sitting around, waiting to be cut into readymades or photo frames....these apparently multiply in the dark!
For the horizontal, you can't beat Jim Miller's gutter system. In fact, next week I am going to add a few more of those. This is where I stock most of my "in stock" moulding, also I have a row of gutters marked from 0-9 for orders waiting to be cut. This corresponds to the last number of the customers work order.
For the vertical, (and I appologize that I cannot remember from whom I stole this idea) I hung peg board high up near the ceiling and used metal hangers that stick out about 10 inches. I screw large screweyes into the end of the stick of moulding and slide it over the metal hanger. The moulding is now suspended off the floor, and it is easy to look ttrough these for a pattern. Mostly this system is used for left-over sticks from non-stock orders.
Unfortunately, I still have lots boxes of "shorts" sitting around, waiting to be cut into readymades or photo frames....these apparently multiply in the dark!
cjmst3k
SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
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i store horizontally - across I have ten and down i have ten - so 100 spots. I store all moulding based on the last 2 digits of the moulding number, regardless of the company. It's been working for me, and it allows me to crunch a huge amount of moulding in a small space, but one does need to be careful about scratching.
The question is almost like, is Pistourious Or Ledsome a better saw?
Both are mighty fine but depends on who ya ask!~
Just a comparison.
My .05
I have horizontal 27 holes across & 11 up 12' deep the supportsat 4',8' & 10. From th efront back to the first 4' support has a luan as a solid shelf to prevent shorts fall through.
Honestly Not sure this would be cost effective if built today.
Plus a 8' x 10' wall with slat wall and 12 inch shelf arm or 8"hooks spaced every two feet I use this to stage to cut moulding. nice thing aboutthe slat was is the ease to move the peg to hold shorts
But I feel it is very good!~ I never had vertical storage but most distributors do. So I will have to say that it must be space, production & cost effective. It is much easier to see the lenght of your shorts(sticks) in a glance in vertical than horizontal.
My problem was I only had 8.5' ceilings. If had 10'-12' ceiling I think that would be the way i would go. But I also think I can get more moulding in the same size space horizontally.
So
Is it space?
Is it Cost?
Those would be the factors that will dictate first choice!~
Then it would be ease of use & production flow!~
Both are mighty fine but depends on who ya ask!~
Just a comparison.
My .05
I have horizontal 27 holes across & 11 up 12' deep the supportsat 4',8' & 10. From th efront back to the first 4' support has a luan as a solid shelf to prevent shorts fall through.
Honestly Not sure this would be cost effective if built today.
Plus a 8' x 10' wall with slat wall and 12 inch shelf arm or 8"hooks spaced every two feet I use this to stage to cut moulding. nice thing aboutthe slat was is the ease to move the peg to hold shorts
But I feel it is very good!~ I never had vertical storage but most distributors do. So I will have to say that it must be space, production & cost effective. It is much easier to see the lenght of your shorts(sticks) in a glance in vertical than horizontal.
My problem was I only had 8.5' ceilings. If had 10'-12' ceiling I think that would be the way i would go. But I also think I can get more moulding in the same size space horizontally.
So
Is it space?
Is it Cost?
Those would be the factors that will dictate first choice!~
Then it would be ease of use & production flow!~
nikfrz
SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
In my former location, I had rafters built overhead for storage because my shop size was so small. I used a rolling ladder and the carpet store next door supplied me with carpet tubes to store the moulding. All of my styles were kept separate and easy to find. Now, I have vertical storage and cant find anything. I do believe that vertical storage has more warpage problems than horizontal.
Yes, the entire operation is to be located into the 22x24 area for this one man shop.The moulding is stacked horizontally onto two rolling dollies at the moment. The previous owner stored the moulding horizontally, but that took up about 35-40% of his shop. Which, brings me to the question of which method to use - veritcal or horizontal. With the proposed floor plan, I suppose the percentage of floor area would be 25% +/-.
The moulding is loose, and there are about 300 patterns. A 2nd floor is not an
option at this moment, but could be later. And off site storage is not in the budget.
The moulding is loose, and there are about 300 patterns. A 2nd floor is not an
option at this moment, but could be later. And off site storage is not in the budget.
having the inventory on only 2 flat bead dollies does not sound like 75,000 ft to me. That is a relief. 300 patterns arranged in a horizontal matrix of shelves / cubbyholes might be the best choice. If you make a shelving system 8'x11.5'x10'deep with 9"X9" partitions you will have 150 spaces. That is approximately 2 styles per section. Depending on the quantity of each style and their width, that will give a good start on planning a storage rack. You can modify the number per number of partitions.