Moulding not totally dry

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Z David

Z David

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How common is it to get moulding where the finish is not totally dry?
I'm in the process of joining a frame at my under-pinner and the felt pad is pulling up patches of the surface finish!
I thought it might be due to glue on the felt pad, so I checked it and that didn't seem to be the problem... and then it happened again on another corner!
Then I notice some black paint on the top surface of my under-pinner right next to the fence.
The top is gold (mostly) and the back is black.

I am maximum PO'd right now!
This is just one of 3 less than desirable happenings today!
I just need to go to bed and wait for a new day.



Z
 
Usually a wet finish on the moulding would stick to the wrapping, or leave wrapping marks on the finish. I don't think it could stay wet after being wrapped then unwrapped.

Could you have some sort of cleaner on the bottom of your of your underpinner pads?

Perhaps rather then being wet, they omitted something that binds the finish to the moulding.
 
or of a pelvic affiliate?






OK this is getting ridiculous.

I've never seen a finish lift. Only thing I've seen is wood glue lifting a Roma finish. Is it a Roma?
 
I don't have photos... I wish I had done that before I started messing with it with a gold marker pen and wax filler... to see if I could salvage it. (Not much success)
I tried calling the supplier but it was after 5... then I learned that they had a California office (after I posted on the G), and spoke with the manager there.
They acknowledged that they have had other complaints of the same nature. It was more like chips were being lifted off of the moulding face.
I assumed that it was not totally dry, in part because of the black paint on the surface of my under-pinner.

Anyhow, the supplier offered to send me a couple more sticks, but I would still need to put it together.
I may have to stay clear of the under-pinner, and use my pin nailer instead.

Nevertheless, it still makes me wonder about the long term integrity of the product!



Z
 
Pack it all up and send it back. There is something definitely iffy. If the finish hasn't dried by the time it's been shipped from the factory to you, then it's not going to improve.
Even if you did manage to use it by being uber-careful, the chances are it's too unstable to last very long.
 
I'd put a piece of Mylar between the top clamp and the molding. It should help press the finish down, and should not stick. Try it on an offcut first.
 
tedh said:
I'd put a piece of Mylar between the top clamp and the molding. It should help press the finish down, and should not stick. Try it on an offcut first.
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*I* would ring up the vendor and ask for them to send a chop-and-join at length price, then request an RMA for the crappy moulding. Make it THEIR problem, not yours.

And then I'd take that sample (and any from the same line) off the wall.
 
I would notify the customer that the material wasn't up to my standards, and come up with a replacement option. If you use the moulding in question you may just perpetuate the problem. No point in annoying the customer if you know the frame has finish issues.
Nip it in the bud, and follow Jim's advice.
 
I appreciate the feedback.

I will contact the customer... and seek another option.






Z
 
tedh said:
I'd put a piece of Mylar between the top clamp and the molding. It should help press the finish down, and should not stick. Try it on an offcut first.
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I stick clear packing tape to the pad and then wipe the pad (clear packing tape) clean after each use. That surely helps with this type of a problem and it also helps from the hard glue build up on the pad that can easily scratch or dent moulding. Also, the pad last much longer.
 
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