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These are suitable for POS use in a frame shop. If you're using visualization, I suggest bumping up the memory to 1gb. It's cheaper to do this after you buy the computer. These pc's are not for heavy gamers, but OK for biz.

OFFICEMAX LINK TO OFFICEMAX DEAL

$299 HP PAVILLION a1110y Desktop w/Pentium 4(2.93GHz, 533MHz FSB) & 15" LCD Flat Panel
Save $430 After Rebates & FREE Upgrade. expires 11/12/05

256MB DDR2-400MHz SDRAM, 40GB 7200 rpm SATA Hard Drive, 48x CD reader, 15" LCD Flat Panel

$599.99 - $200 instant coupon - $50 PC mail-in rebate - $50 monitor mail-in rebate = $299.99

Optional UPGRADE PACK for $125 more: ($424 total)
Intel® Pentium® 4 519K (3.06GHz, 533MHz FSB), 80GB 7200 rpm SATA Hard Drive, 48x max HP CD-Writer


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Or if you prefer Dell, here's a similar machine with a larger 17" LCD, 80GB Hard Drive, and 48x CD-Writer for $529 after $100 mail in rebate: Exp 11/9/05
LINK TO DELL DEAL

Mike
 
Mike,

Where were you when I was first setting up my shop.

3 systems from Dell and no bargains.

All are great performers but I bite my lip every time I see you post your great finds.

I should be getting a new home pc in a few months, maybe drop you an email for your advice if you don't mind.

Thanks for the post.
 
We'll be in the market for a new one soon, too, to replace Andy's aging 4yo Dell.

We have our eyes open for a machine suitable for gaming. Most of the disposable/low end deals I post don't have slots for high speed video cards, so they're not appropriate.

Mike
 
Mike:

Dell is very bad for gaming, trust me, I found out the hard way. They are great machines, until you want to upgrade anything in them, especially the video card (the new ones need more juice, my Dell had only 230 W, so replacing the power supply is a major undertaking as Dell uses proprietary everything). Same applies to the motherboard (CPU upgrade).

If you really want blazing fast, and easily upgradeable PCs, nothing beats PCs using the AMD (not Intel) processors. They are cheaper too!

My next PC will be most likely from ABSPC.com or ViciousPC.com, or I'll build it myself, if I have the time (most unlikely).
 
I have had some bad AMD experiences, and stick with Intel as a result. I once had to replace 37 machines for a client because of timing/stability issues and incompat with the client's accounting software. (was a nightmare, and almost 10 years ago) For another client, they have an old DOS TSR that won't run with the AMD chip.

I'm sure they have improved a lot, and are suitable for home use, but I still remember the bad experiences. My best friend just bought a motherboard with the AMD and LOVES it. He said it runs hotter, but comparable to the Intel. He saved a lot of $ and is very pleased.

The economy Dells have standard power supplies, no agp or PCI-E. They also sell performance versions that have all the bells and whistles. I don't post the deals for those, because they are overkill for a frame shop.

My personal home pc is a home grown variety, but for the shop these "disposable" machines are about half the price of what it would cost to assemble them myself. Often the cost of the included software and monitor are worth the price alone. The low price makes it easier to upgrade every 2-3 years.

For laptops, i'm very fond of the Dell and IBM products.

Mike
 
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