making fillet samples - what adhesive to use?

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KickTheBobo

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Hi guys,

We have been trying to make our own fillet samples for our gallery with little success. We've tries bonding two sticks to a v-shaped piece of metal using silicone, but it does not adhere correctly. Our fillet section is a mess now because a guy made like 100 of these and the sticks just get pulled off of the metal.

Has anyone ever made a fillet sample (corner style) and if so, how did you do it?

Am I foolish to think that there is some sort of bonding agent that will successfully work with a wood-metal combo? the samples we get from Larson seem to have been made this way.

thanks!
 
I just glue them and put them in the corner vise then take my Dremel, drill with a miniature bit and put two small brads in each one.

Works great.
 
Try this...

KickTheBobo said:
....Am I foolish to think that there is some sort of bonding agent that will successfully work with a wood-metal combo?
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Learned about this website from Jay Hartman...
Glue This to That...

John
 
We use backplates for metal frames and take some Goop(silicone glue in the purple tube), apply the goop to the backplate, put your two sample pieces on the backplate and squish some silicone into the corner so it bonds to the metal and to itself. All of our fillet samples that are wide enough to use the backplates, are very strong once they have dried. for the samples that arent wide enough we use a piece of matboard to glue the pieces to, but those are not nearly as strong as the backplate method.
 
The surface area of most fillets' miters is so small that it would be very difficult to get a really strong adhesive bond with the wood alone.

One idea is to reinforce each fillet corner with a small 90-degree mending plate. Glue that bad boy on the back of the fillet with polyurethane glue (Gorilla Glue), and it will make a very durable corner.

For a lighter-weight, less durable corner joint, reinforce the miters with pieces of 4-ply board, L-trimmed to the width of the fillet. For the paper-to-wood bond, use PVA or polyaliphatic resin (frame glue).

For mat fillet samples, another idea is to glue each fillet sample onto the surface of a black or white mat corner sample. Slip that under whatever mat sample you wish to show to the customer. That won't work for frame fillets, though.
 
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The fillet samples I get from Studio has only the velcro as the "glue" They come in folded in half and fit into a standard coffee mug. There are fillet v-nails, but really just put them into the vise, glue them and put on the velcro. If the glue fails the velcro will be there. Some times we think things out too much.


How will you be displaying them? In a drawer or on the wall with the moulding samples?
 
Bob Doyle said:
The fillet samples I get from Studio has only the velcro as the "glue" They come in folded in half and fit into a standard coffee mug. There are fillet v-nails, but really just put them into the vise, glue them and put on the velcro. If the glue fails the velcro will be there. Some times we think things out too much.
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I agree Bob. If you put too much on the back, a lot of times you can't fit the sample properly in frame rabbets if you want to use them there instead of just in mats. When I receive them with metal on the back, I tend to pop it off and reglue it.
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I have most of my fillet samples made up into corners like this:
fillets.jpg



Mat corners fit onto the top, but I explain to the customer that a reverse bevel will be used on the mat so that the white bevel will not be seen!

Fillets are glued with Superglue. A drop on each side of the joint, wiped off with rag then let dry for 10 minutes. Another application of Superglue on one side, then held together by hand for about 15 seconds.
 
osgood said:
I have most of my fillet samples made up into corners like this:
fillets.jpg



Mat corners fit onto the top, but I explain to the customer that a reverse bevel will be used on the mat so that the white bevel will not be seen!

Fillets are glued with Superglue. A drop on each side of the joint, wiped off with rag then let dry for 10 minutes. Another application of Superglue on one side, then held together by hand for about 15 seconds.
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That's nice and all...but what if you want to show the customer what the fillet would look like in the frame instead of the mat? Do you not sell fillets in frames occasionally?
 
It's quite rare for me to sell a fillet in a frame. Ideally I would have another set just joined in the same way to show inside a frame, but for me it's not a priority!
 
I actually sell more fillets to fit inside of a frame than I do to fit the opening of a mat.

Actually better that way ...more footage!

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Thanks!

I'm gonna direct my guys to this thread and I think we'll be able to get these samples looking good.

Cheers,

KTB
 
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