LifeSaver- FrameVue vs. SpecialtySoft- View

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Recently, I've been talking to a guy from Specialty Soft and I've been very impressed with their software from a purely hypothetical standpoint. It started out because the frame shop I work in is looking to move into the technological age with frame visualization software. The owners are asking for my feedback and I'm trying to do a lot of research. As a lot of you know, as a framer, it's also important that I continue to frame. While it is important to research, it is also important that I don't get into something that I will regret. With this post, I ask for your help and experience... Thanks a bunch!

Lael Loyd
Wenaha Gallery
Dayton, WA
800-755-2124
 
Hi

We have been using Visualization in our shop since March of 2005 (previously with another product, and now with FrameVue), and highly recommend the technology. It has come a long way in 2.5 years :) It's not for every customer, but it sure does help close sales with wider mats, v-grooves, multi-openings, etc. There have been a whole series of threads about this topic, in the archives, with some great opinions.

As far as "Which one is best?", I think we're probably all proud of our personal choice and investment. I strongly suggest trying them ALL out first, to see which workflow and feature set are best for your situation, to make an informed choice. If attending Atlanta next week, you can bring a list of questions along for the vendors. You can also try each of them there.

Here is a list which compares the basic features of each product, their prices, and the contact information to obtain the demos. http://www.getthepictureframing.com/gfaq/visualization.htm

If you have questions about the demos, we're all here to help. You can also usually get a quick answer in the Grumble chat room.

See you in Atlanta!
Mike
 
Thanx Mike

Since I won't be in Atlanta, I'll just contact the reps via phone for now. I think what I really would like to know, is what shortfalls do you notice with the system you (or anyone else) use now and what are the major pluses. I am concerned about LifeSaver's FrameVue and the fact that the camera mounts from the ceiling with no photography light (as advertised with SpecialtySoft's View. I know I can piece all these components together, but I get tired of getting pieces from a lot of places- I would rather in some ways put my eggs in one basket when it comes to POS and visualization. SpecialtySoft has been awesome to work with and LifeSaver good, but not as good. It's no way to buy a system, especially one that will be used for the long run.

I'm just looking for pros/cons to different systems, mainly LifeSaver and SpecialtySoft. There doesn't seem to be many other combined systems out there.

Thanks for the help...

Lael
 
I would highly recommend being able to do an actual 'test drive' of the systems you are considering. "Hypothetical" is totally different, of course, from how a system actually functions for your shop. You should be able to load actual data and play with the system to see how your information flows entirely through, from start to finish. Reports should provide usable information for your business, running the system should save you time to use on framing and selling, etc.

I recommend being able to generate your own reports, and not just look at mock-ups of report formats. You'll learn so much by entering a framing order in all the ways you design and build custom orders, tracking the cost/retail, ordering/receiving your materials, tracking the order progress until completion, following up with the client when ready, etc. You need to see your own data flow through reports and to any interfaces that a packages offers. Is the data accurate? Relevant?

I am being careful to not favor one system over another (I have run more than one in my shop), but as a former retail software systems developer, I highly recommend basing your decision on an actual test drive of the system (like buying a car). Don't buy because the salesperson is nice or your neighbor loves it or it looks pretty. Here's my advice: Just remember that YOU run the business, not your software system. If you find one that functions in a way that feels comfortable to your store operations, and can be used by you as a tool of your trade, that's a good choice.

Finally, you may be able to modify current store operations slightly to find a good fit for you shop with a particular package. Don't be afraid to scrutinize 'how you've always done things' and modify for efficiency as needed when you implement your new software.

All of these vendors are investing a lot into getting the best package out that they can deliver. They should have names of clients they work closely with: Ask for several of those names of people who have run the software for a couple of years, and call them (hurry, before the fall/holiday rush!) and ask specific questions after you've test-driven the system. good luck!
 
We're implementing this after WCAF. I suggest going to a trade show to see the different ones in person and get some face-to-face time with the companies. That's what we're doing. The only reason we have waited so long is because I purchased a visualization package in the mid 90s and, while it worked great for a time, the company did not support it and all the frames and mat colors had to be pre-programmed in. We lost over $10,000 on that. I wasn't going to enter into it again until I was sure that it was sound - I wasn't going to be the guinea pig. So, now I think it's time to purchase without reservations.
 
Integration is becoming a bigger issue...

...I'm just looking for pros/cons to different systems, mainly LifeSaver and SpecialtySoft. There doesn't seem to be many other combined systems out there...

Lael,

These two players produce two of the most popular and useful POS programs in the industry...they also produce really nifty visualization software. What's really great is that they both have been working closely with Fletcher-Terry to develop seamless integration to their CMC's.

Both the LifeSaver and Specialty Soft folks were in The Fletcher-Terry booth in Atlanta demonstrating this integration firsthand. I understand that you were not able to get there, so please contact them directly or visit them at the WCAF Show in Las Vegas in January.

As several folks have already mentioned....test driving them in person is the best thing you can do...allow plenty of time to digest the information. :)

John
 
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