Laminated Map-Drymount?

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OK Dudes & Dudettes! Today, the Barbarian ran into a new one. A gentleman brought in a huge map (38.5" x 58.5") for a simple frame rolled up in a shipping tube. It is laminated. Can I drymount this with the plastic laminate? This is probably a simple answer but a new one for me! Thanks All. Humbly.

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Overcut the Barbarian
Frame it or throw it away
 
My dry-mount heat press will also laminate, and it requires a higher temperature to laminate than to dry-mount, so I would assume that there would be no problems. (The problem I assume occurred to you is that it might damage/melt the laminate.)

But I have never done it before, so take this information with a proverbial grain of salt.
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I don't care what color your sofa is.
 
When these big maps are laminated with a glossy laminate they usually won't drymount. The time in the heat press won't hurt them but the tissue won't bond. It will just fall off the mount board. The glossy laminate acts like release paper. The best solution is to cold mount in a roller press. Check with your local pro photo lab or a service offering large digital prints - they probably have a big roller press. As a last resort you could strip the laminate off the back of the print but this is not always successful.
 
Hello Overcut, Scarfinger has you on the correct path - here is an alternative plus more details.

These types of posters are cheaply mounted usually with a polyester laminate also known as "menu laminate" - as per menus in restaurants. Cheap, but efficient. If you mount them with a product like Seal or Techmount heat activated drymount tissue they may appear to be adhered. However the plastic will soon start to lift from the tissue and simply lifting a corner will peel the entire work from the substrate.

You can try a couple of things. One is to use a contact spray adhesive in a can from 3M. It is called High Strength 90 Spray. This is no different than contact cement in a bottle or can if you prefer to use that. You need to spray both surfaces and then carefully roll the laminated print out on the substrate and use a brayer or roller to apply pressure to adhere the plastic.

The second is to take it to a company that specializes in laminating large digital print output. They will be able to do mounting with a cold rolled adhesive product like
SEAL Print Mount One in a 40 or 60 inch wide roller press with the heat turned off. They will apply the Print Mount One adhesive cold to the back of the substrate or to the laminated print. This leaves the glue applied to the material, but with a cover of release paper over the outer side of the adhesive. It is then sent through the press a second time while the release paper is pulled back and the rollers squeeze the laminated poster to the substrate.

Unless you want to experience the fun of contact cement I recommend the service bureau
route. If you have already contact cemented new kitchen counters with formica then go for it and do it yourself!

You can find info about 3M products at the following.
http://www.3m.com/product/index.html
http://www.3m.com/product/index_A/index_A_74.html

Alan Sturgess


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I've been successful in mounting items like those using a product call Lamin-All use as directed and let dry then drymount, its been working like a charm. At least no ones been back in several years of doing them that way.

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United sell this product 800-645-7260
 
Alway take care when putting anything with a plastic on it in to the heat press. Yes, some will go through just fine, but I had an oversized mat that wanted to melt. (Luckly I was testing it before putting it in the press.)

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Sue May :)
"Everyone is born right-handed, only the greatest can over come it!"
 
Ive had good luck over the years using 3M #77 spray adhesive. Spray both surfaces (map and FC or whatever) and put in cold press. I like to use Beinfang AF FC as the surface has more "teeth" and grips better in my opinion.

---Mike
 
You can use Spray 77 and then roller with one of the hard rubber rollers they use to put down flooring. We've mounted and laminated large pieces for 22 years and use contact adhesives sprayed through a Binks paint sprayer.( Not too efficient for one piece) Then we roller in both directions.
You can also use PMA and the rubber roller.
Less messy but don't miss any spots or it will bubble later. Good luck!
 
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