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Tom Reigle
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We do quite a bit of work with the military in our frame shop and I have tried to figure out using pathtrace and other methods of enlarging, how to put a "border" around a complex patch pattern such as I have shown below? By "border" I mean a mat fallout that is, for example purposes, 1/4 " larger all the way around the patch without losing the overall contour of the patch in the modification of the mat fallout dimensions that are needed to make the cut. It is this fallout that I want to use instead of the opening in the mat. I don't even cut the outside of a mat dimension, I uncheck that box so all I get is the fallout portion cut. I want to float mount these types of complex shapes on a shaped mat that corresponds to one of the unit's colors with the other color being the background or back mat in the design. I am finding that, even with the "keep aspect intact" box checked, (I am at home so that little box may not be that exact title), when I add the larger dimension to the drawing or scan of the patch being used (in the Pathtrace program), I lose the contour in any place where there is a reverse arc or an inside corner to deal with.
It happens with the modified "shield" patch like the ACC patch above and is most evident on the ends of the scroll where you have "inside corners" on both ends of the scroll area. It will also occur on a round patch with either a top banner or a bottom banner or both, like the "Blackjack" patch above. All of the measurements seem to increase in proportion to the increase in dimension until you get to the inside corners of the banners where they intersect with the round part of the patch. In Corel Draw this is called keeping in "contour" or some similar identifying word but I find no combination of "tricks or tips" in Pathtrace that will accomplish this dimension change in proportion to the entire patch shape.
Does anyone have some idea of how this can be accomplished without rescanning each individual patch and making a vector graphic of the increase in Corel Draw or PhotoShop and transferring them over into Pathtrace as a readable file to save to .wsx?? We sometimes mount upwards of 8 to 10 patches and more for military personnel who have been in many different units during their career and have accumulated a number of patches, challenge coins, and other insignia, most of which is very straight forward mounting technique. But, this "border" thing on a 3D mount or a float mount is challenging my patience and, though I have conversed with Mark on various occasions about this, I am either not speaking in language he understands or we have some gap in communications because I have tried his methods and have not had much luck with them so far. I can get the general outside of the cut to enlarge but those inside corner areas or reverse arcs on many of these patches are killin' me!!
I have not used the advanced tools in Wizard enough to understand the language and conversion techniques yet. But I have learned a bunch about other methods of using the Wizard that I was not aware of in trying out all the things I find in the program!! So it has not been a total wash for me so far.


It happens with the modified "shield" patch like the ACC patch above and is most evident on the ends of the scroll where you have "inside corners" on both ends of the scroll area. It will also occur on a round patch with either a top banner or a bottom banner or both, like the "Blackjack" patch above. All of the measurements seem to increase in proportion to the increase in dimension until you get to the inside corners of the banners where they intersect with the round part of the patch. In Corel Draw this is called keeping in "contour" or some similar identifying word but I find no combination of "tricks or tips" in Pathtrace that will accomplish this dimension change in proportion to the entire patch shape.
Does anyone have some idea of how this can be accomplished without rescanning each individual patch and making a vector graphic of the increase in Corel Draw or PhotoShop and transferring them over into Pathtrace as a readable file to save to .wsx?? We sometimes mount upwards of 8 to 10 patches and more for military personnel who have been in many different units during their career and have accumulated a number of patches, challenge coins, and other insignia, most of which is very straight forward mounting technique. But, this "border" thing on a 3D mount or a float mount is challenging my patience and, though I have conversed with Mark on various occasions about this, I am either not speaking in language he understands or we have some gap in communications because I have tried his methods and have not had much luck with them so far. I can get the general outside of the cut to enlarge but those inside corner areas or reverse arcs on many of these patches are killin' me!!
I have not used the advanced tools in Wizard enough to understand the language and conversion techniques yet. But I have learned a bunch about other methods of using the Wizard that I was not aware of in trying out all the things I find in the program!! So it has not been a total wash for me so far.