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Mark Rogers

Mark Rogers

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A couple of distributors I have checked with for a wood profile have indicated they would have to charge extra for chop & join because the profile requires the moulding to be glued and viced before joining with the v-nailer. The problem is the profile is a little over a inch tall and only ½ wide. If not pre-glued, it will open at the top slightly; leaving a crack after it is nailed. I understand that if it were more square, like 1 inch wide by 1 inch tall that it would not need the extra step of letting the glue dry in a vice. I was wondering if there is a v-nailer that can handle tall profiles without the extra vice step.

This is the shape of the profile:

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Mark
 
> Uh...What's the question?

Is there a v-nailer that does not have this problem?

or

Is there a v-nailer techinique or modification that can avoid this problem.

I need to avoid the glue and vice time.
 
Mark, I was with you the whole way. Answer NO.

Even if the stem molding is poplar, tulip, or bass wood, you'll never get #12s to stack that high guarenteed. If the wood is anything else, I'll almost guarentee the v-nail to "V" thought the back of your moulding in the first or second nail push.

Go down to HD or Lowes or another supply and get the Jorgenson band clamp. They have a new one out with a nice crank handle in the forth corner block.

v-nail the bottom then put the whole frame in the band clamp for about a long lunch. (1-2 hours) then rest over night and you will be good. The v-nails only hold the frame in place till the glue drys anyway. 90% of the corner bond is the glue. That's why what we use for glue is so important.

baer
 
And you should be paid for your time.

I glue and nail profiles like that with a Senco slight-headed pinner. Or, if they're big-enough, I use a detail biscuit joiner (which isn't exactly lightening fast.)
 
My Vn42 Amp/Putnam/MiterMite v-nailer would join that profile with no opening at the top. On this machine, there's an adjustment for vertical angle.

Instead, the opening would appear at the outermost corner of the joint, near the bottom. In any case, the thickness of the steel insert would cause an opening in one place or another, as the wood fibers are separated.

Pre-gluing is the answer, and the v-nails may be installed trouble-free afer the glue dries.
 
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