iPhone 5 - anyone else waiting?

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I've been waiting patiently for 6 years to buy one. When iPhone was released on AT&T I decided to hold tight with Verizon. Every year thought they would get it. Bought an older Droid outside of contract, just to I could upgrade once they switched to Verizon... and then when they switched, it didn't have 4G. So, I'm hoping today they offer presales. I'm ready to be handed the baton finally.

Anyone else been waiting?
 
Nope.

Shawna and I each just got the Samsung Galaxy S3. Love it!



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I played around with that one in the store. I loved the screen size. Ergonomics were good too. But it felt very plasticy and the sample at the store, while only 3 days old, was already scratched somewhat whereas the iphone sample which has been there for many months was unscratched. Also, the screen on the Samsung was not as bright. But if I were about to buy a droid, that is the one I would get!
 
I thought the body on the S3 was a bit slippery too, but with the case and the heat sealed screen protector (guaranteed against any screen scratching) I really like the feel of it now. Hard to get used to how thin and leightweight it is too after using my original Motorola Droid for 3 years but I am liking it more and more each day. I'm amazed at the features too on the new phones. 4G LTE is lighting fast.
 
I'll probably get the (not yet released) Samsung Galaxy S4, because our contract isn't up until May 2013.

Although a couple years late to the party to offer 4G (LTE) and a larger screen, and maybe not the most powerful of the current devices; there's no doubt that the new iphone will do very well - because of the Apple logo and brand loyalty. People with older devices lacking the larger screen and 4G will finally be able to have these benefits.

If they have AT&T, there's probably very little advantage. The ATT 4G network is barely started, in spite of the commercials saying they have the largest 4G network :) Those on Verizon, however, will benefit from a huge 4G footprint which is larger than all competitors combined. The 4g data service is VERY fast, at about 20x faster. I usually get about 20-35 Megabits download speed, depending on distance from towers. (and about 11-15 upload) (results were collected from the android app speedtest.net, which is probably also available for IOS.)

You'll love 4G!

Mike
 
Most of the features announced.

I'm guessing at the end they will say "...and one more thing, Fingerprint Unlocking" for better security.
 
I've been waiting patiently for 6 years to buy one. When iPhone was released on AT&T I decided to hold tight with Verizon. Every year thought they would get it. Bought an older Droid outside of contract, just to I could upgrade once they switched to Verizon... and then when they switched, it didn't have 4G. So, I'm hoping today they offer presales. I'm ready to be handed the baton finally.

Anyone else been waiting?

Yes i am !!! I started with Verizon and then i added an At and T account i switched my verizon # to Google so i could save $90.00 and keep that work # which is great !! For a total of only $40.00 to Google to keep my work # active.. it's been over a year and it's great no more cost and voicemails are converted to text and sent to my iphone .. yayyy.. anyway.. i started with the 3 GS went to the 4 and am patiently waiting for the 5 suposed to be 1/2 wider .. October sometimne it will be coming out.. Sorry was rambling there..

Ted
 
yep ordering one as soon as available

didnt bother with iphone 4s

have had tons of diff phones and by far the most stable and complete i have had is my iphone. it syncs with my exchange server etc

love the imessage thing, free messages between me and most of my customers and missus
 
Yes! I called the Apple Store earlier today, and was told that pre-order of the iPhone 5 begins at midnight (Pacific time) this Friday.
 
Dud, Dood

Waited until today to see if the 5 is good enough to replace the 3GS, and, according to the media, it isn't. Getting the SIII in the morning. The only thing I don't like is the size - the smaller it is, the easier it fits into the jeans pocket. Bigger is not better.
 
Saw this posted on facebook. I wasn't sure whether to put this on Warped or the Techie forum, and this seems as good a place as any.
:popc: Rick

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:sleep::sleep::sleep::shrug:

Another day, another useless electronic gizmo to separate the mugs from their money. No doubt the "I-sheep" will again be sleeping on the footpaths to try to be the first to get their hands on the latest and greatest must-have which will again be superceded in 6 more months.

Meantime, my 10 year old Nokia keeps making 'phone calls which is all I ever ask of a 'phone.
 
I'm pre ordering tomorrow morning. Had the same iphone for 2 years and my contract is up. Looking forward to the 5........and Suri.
 
:sleep::sleep::sleep::shrug:

Another day, another useless electronic gizmo to separate the mugs from their money. No doubt the "I-sheep" will again be sleeping on the footpaths to try to be the first to get their hands on the latest and greatest must-have which will again be superceded in 6 more months.

Meantime, my 10 year old Nokia keeps making 'phone calls which is all I ever ask of a 'phone.

I agree. The best cel phone I have had was an old Motorola that looked like this:
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Little B&W screen, no camera, no texting, no problem. It made and received calls very reliably. It was easy to punch in numbers without errors due to the size, shape, and feel of the keys (unlike my current one with flat buttons that make it virtually impossible to press only one at a time). If that wasn't good enough, it had very easy and effective voice dialing that didn't require you to answer any follow-up questions.
:kaffeetrinker_2: Rick
 
Decided this morning to pre-order the Iphone 5 64gb.

Been waiting 6 years to own one, and have not bought a subsidized phone from Verizon since 2006. In early 2010 I bought a Droid Incredible outright from Craigslist with intention of buying a Verizon iPhone a few months later, then the one they released was not up to the new 4G signal. Then waited for the next one to have 4G which it didnt. Done waiting. Bought.

If the Samsung Galaxy S3 didn't feel super-plasticy and if Androids had safer apps and more consistent design that I could bring it to a friend's house and they would have a dock to listen/charge, I would have considered it more.

From the specs, the Galaxy S3 beats iphone a little, and I like the slightly larger size though its not quite as bright and can do a few more things, but from actual build, I prefer the premium feel of an iphone and knowing they are much less prone to virus downloads from their store. They also seem to hold their value a bit more when reselling, or if in two years I decide to upgrade, I'll still have a helluva ipod to use out of it, whereas used Droids are only good to resell imo.

Was a tough call.

Hey... Samsung... build it out of a material that doesn't feel like Legos and I might buy it next time! :)
 
OK, I just don't get it. I'm not doing any Apple bashing here but I just don't understand what is happening.

We have a phone here that is, by all the reviews I have read, not much of a big deal. It appears to have just caught up with the competition and in some cases (screen size) not up to par with most.

Yet the [STRIKE] Cult Leaders[/STRIKE] Religious Evangelists at Apple have the [STRIKE]lemmings[/STRIKE] Apple Loyalists (sorry - couldn't resist at least a little dig) in such a fever pitch that the dang pre-orders (which opened early this morning) have already sold out and Apple stock is now at an all time high. All for a tiny phone.

Someone in another thread was facetiously kidding about iSand. Sounds like Apple could sell it.
 
Some like Apple products and some not. And with Apple it's not the product only but also the IOS and 10x more app's as available for android. Beside that it's safe and most user-friendly and not made of plastic.
 
... with Apple it's not the product only but also the IOS and 10x more app's as available for android.
Not quite 10x more, closer to 0.5x. Android has 511,000 apps, and IOS has about 750,000. In most cases, they're the same apps :)

Both platforms are great, and there is no lack of Apps. :) Neither platform has the memory to hold 700,000 apps at once.

Let's not start an iWar :)

Mike
 
I started a thread stating that I have been waiting for the next iPod and was looking for an alternative. I did end up getting the Samsung, and I gotta say the iPods are easier to navigate. But then that is most likely because i have experience using an iPod. My first "real" computer experience was on Macs and when I had to hand in my papers on a PC disk I had to type them all in again using Word in Dos. Spent 20 minutes trying to find the mouse :) Now I resent using a mac as when you unload programs their are remnant hooks all over the computer... Easy to use though....

So wait all you want for the iPhone, the alternatives are great, just take getting used to :) For instance I really do like being able to delete songs right on the device, not having to use the computer to do it. Just got to figure out how to get my podcasts running.
 
Haha..... We Dutch stopped starting wars since the end of the 16th century. It should be a very sad situation when all users only bought an iPhone or just only one other type of phone. I hope the manufacturers will continue to compete in technologies and innovation. Those phones change living very fast. To read mail everywhere you need or like and to have your files in the cloud. What will happen in near future? As we review what happened since 2000.....

But on the other hand we may not forget to have a real life with feelings and good relationships. We also may not loose our temperament and try to keep our mind and spirit open for beautiful nature around us. This is also why trains have silence-appartments.....
 
OK, I just don't get it. I'm not doing any Apple bashing here....

Did you see what you wrote below? Well, Apple-purchaser-bashing technically, but bashing nonetheless.

No harm, no foul though.


We have a phone here that is, by all the reviews I have read, not much of a big deal.

Well, it's a "big deal" or "close to par deal" depending on who you're comparing to.
It's likely better than most of the Android phones in-use today.

Does it beat them all on features? Nope.

Does it beat most of them on features? Probably.

Does it beat most of them on construction? Given all the Androids I've put in my hand and tested out - yes.

So, I respectfully disagree with your "not much of a big deal" statement. They're not on the cutting edge with any of what they brought to the iPhone5, but very good improvements that bring it pretty close to the sharpest cutting-edge.

It appears to have just caught up with the competition and in some cases (screen size) not up to par with most.

Would they be "better" if they had a 6" screen? Screensize is too subjective to consider one size "up to par" and another not.

I'd say it's screen is on-par or better than most Androids, including clarity, brightness and size (though some Androids are larger). It just caught up to features like panoramic photo mode. Though it surpasses Android on security and consistency.

""Android is open source, which means the hacker can also understand the underlying architecture and source code,"" Chairman Steve Chang told Bloomberg Businessweek."

"We have to give credit to Apple, because they are very careful about it," he added. "It's impossible for certain types of viruses"to operate on the iPhone."

...when you're using a device which is significantly used for downloading apps, then the above security is of concern, at least for me.

Also when I reviewed getting an Android a year and a half ago, I looked at reviews of cameras, and an 8mp from Android did not look as good as an 8mp from iPhone. Maybe things have changed, or maybe not. But from the research I've done, the things that iPhones do work well. But there's always a "greener on the other side" potential with all devices.


Yet the [STRIKE] Cult Leaders[/STRIKE] Religious Evangelists at Apple have the [STRIKE]lemmings[/STRIKE] Apple Loyalists (sorry - couldn't resist at least a little dig) in such a fever pitch that the dang pre-orders (which opened early this morning) have already sold out and Apple stock is now at an all time high. All for a tiny phone.


To quote you above "I'm not doing any Apple bashing here but...". But indeed!

Yes, Apple has their legions. Their fan-base is strong. For good reason. They make an excellent product and can make people feel trendy.

My brother-in-law used to be HUGELY pro-Apple. Until his iMac died and they denied his extended warranty, and the same week his iPod died. Then he became HUGELY anti-Mac. I watched him replace his iMac with an HP, and replace his Blackberry with an Android. Over a period of about 3 years he made it clear his dislike of the Apple ecosystem, etc. Then he complained about Android's lack of consistency and quality. His phone's screen cracked, and after 3 months of just using it, he decided to go back to Apple. iPhone4 and iMac-air. Why? Because it works, and works well. He decided he'd rather be happy, rather than be right.

I feel I'm objective. I don't own any Apple products (sans the ipod I bought in 2005). I just bought a Lenovo laptop because I felt $250 for a laptop is "good enough" for me. But when buying a phone, whether what I perceive as cheap construction or exceptional construction, since it costs me the same (and subsidized by the phone company), I'm going to get what I feel is the best bang for my 2 year loyalty. Given Apple's premium design with most of the bells and whistles out there, that's what I felt was the best investment.


An argument over "Why do people really love X, when Y is better?" is akin to "Why to people really love bananas, when apples are better".

"But bananas have more potassium" "Yeah? Well apples have crunch, and don't need to be peeled!"






Someone in another thread was facetiously kidding about iSand. Sounds like Apple could sell it.

I can't blame them. They're good at selling. I wish I were as successful as they are.




I just was wondering about the phenomena of why Apple can sell out a product that isn't much different than other options.

It is different. Construction. Ease of use. Security. Let alone a different platform (for better or worse) that some may prefer.

If Android were a company and if Android only made one phone per year, they would get similar responses. But, Android is an unkempt beast. Every month there is a new Android device. Sometimes several. Its hard to get excited about constant releases, with varying quality. It would be like getting excited every time I saw an ad saying Khols is having a sale.

We're luckily in a place where there is great selection on both platforms. If Android had better consistency and less plastic feel, I would have more strongly considered them. But since I'm tired of my light-weight plastic Android phone, so I'm giving the other side a try.

Even Steve Wozniak who co-founded Apple says he loves both devices. I'm with him. I wish I could mix and match the pros of both, but I can't.
 
Did you see what you wrote below? Well, Apple-purchaser-bashing technically, but bashing nonetheless.No harm, no foul though.

OK, so maybe a little bashing - in good fun though. :p

If Android were a company and if Android only made one phone per year, they would get similar responses. But, Android is an unkempt beast. Every month there is a new Android device. Sometimes several. Its hard to get excited about constant releases, with varying quality.

Actually in my mind this is a feature, not a bug. Not everyone wants the same thing - choice is good. I want the Note 2 - but given its size its not for everyone. I want to get rid of my HTC incredible with it's tiny 3.7" screen. I think the S3 with it's 4.8" screen is too small so I would never get excited about a 4" screen. But that's the deal - consumer choice. Maybe having choices is confusing to some but not me.

In any case - here is a review of the iPhone 5 vs the Note 2 - its a review by AndroidAutrhority but it seems balanced. http://www.androidauthority.com/apple-iphone-5-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-2-114698/

The article also has a link to an S3 vs iPhone5 for those interested.
:popc:
 
A phone isn't worth to fight or start a war. A few weeks ago 2 boy's (14 and 15) killed a girl (17) to pick her phone..... This happened in the southern part of Rotterdam. That's a very poor part of town with many people from other cultures.
 
I had a Droid Incredible the minute they came out. I loved that phone and for nearly two years I got excited nearly every time I had it in my hand. But near the end of my two-year Verizon contract, it started to over-heat, it kept restarting itself, it could hang onto a phone call for more than a minute because it would get too hot and shut itself off. Verizon claimed they didn't know what was wrong. HTC disavowed any knowledge that this was an ongoing, common problem with the Incredible. There are entire forum threads full of consumers trying to figure out what was wrong, all saying that neither Verizon or HTC would help, or even admit to knowing there was a problem.

So, when I couldn't stand the lack of reliability in the Incredible I had anymore, I got an iPhone 4S. I love this thing as much as I loved the Incredible when it was new. Both platforms are nice - I like some things about one more than the other, and vice versa.

When I got the iPhone, the Verizon guys were trying to talk me into a SIII ... I did look at it, and when I told them "no way" they seemed annoyed and surprised. That thing was huge! Phone size matters to those of us with small hands and pockets, and larger screens aren't always better. The feel of the iPhone was better in my hand, but I'm sure for "normal sized" people, that SIII would be great.

As for people going crazy over i-everything.... eh, it's trendy. Most of their products do have a nice feel, clean lines, aesthtically pleasing (especially to all those people who also like white mats and black frames). Multiple products do sync well, and when it came time to update my router, I'll admit to getting an Airport Extreme. They have a following, and some people find it easier to stick with one company that actually do any research when they buy something new. (When I replaced my laptop I ended up with a Sony, I don't think I could switch to a Mac full-time!)
 
i switched to an imac 9 years ago, best move i ever made. I got the iPhone 3 when it first came out, still got, it still works, kids play with it.
For me, going apple has been like upgrading to a product that not only looks good, feels good, but works well. I think before i went apple i probably had at least 10-15 pc's and 10 different mobiles. 9 years later i still have all my apple products and and they all still work (almost as good as the day i bought them). They may cost a little more, but so does custom framing.
I am sure the other phones are good, but i don't want good, i want reliability, ease of use, and the syncing with all my other apple products is great.

I guess i am part of the apple cult, but my techie life has never been better.
 
If the Samsung Galaxy S3 didn't feel super-plasticy

The reason for the plastic is explained here:

The HTC Evo 4G LTE also has an NFC chip, which explains why the top quarter of the phone's back is plastic (we're told NFC can't get through the solid industrial aluminum that composes the bottom 1/3 of the back of the phone).

http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-evo-4g-lte-1081371/review

I love my 1 1/2 year old EVO 4G even with the baby 4.3" screen and am looking forward to the 4.7" screen on the new one but in the next half year it will most likely grow. My closest friend here in town is an Apple guy so we trash talk one another's stuff several times per week. He's a retired school teacher with over a hundred grand per year pension so he can afford to be an Apple guy. Since I work for a living I'm all about the Droid. :shutup:

Do the i-Phones come with the cracked screen since I can't find that feature on any of the Droids. :cry:

My daughter just got the 4S and I was looking for the magnifying glass in the box so I could see the tiny screen. :D
 
My daughter just got the 4S and I was looking for the magnifying glass in the box so I could see the tiny screen. :D

I stopped in a Verizon today (next to FedEx) when I dropped off todays shipments at FedEx and looked at LG Intuition, one of the weirder phones I have seen in a while. With a 5" screen with a 4:3 aspect ratio (any new phone worth its salt will have a 16:9 aspect ratio - that the ratio for HD), it looks like a phablet only a mother could love. The verizon salepimp was trying to tell me it is a good substitute for the Note 2. I felt like calling his boss over and asking him to give the salspimp a random drug test.

But that's what competition does: gives you the good with the weird.

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I pre-ordered mine. 64gb. I can't wait. A year ago I bought a pioneer stereo for my car, thinking it was droid compatible, but it wasn't! Spent a ton of bread on stereo, amp, and speakers. I'll contain my frustrated words at pioneer for only working with ipods and iphones. So now. Finally I'll be able to stream spotify and pandora in my car, and best of yet, see my navigation on the stereo's 7 inch touch screen.
 
I'm no Apple fan these days (80's was different) but do like the iPhone 4 a lot and would replace it in a heartbeat for the same model or the 4s. I'm not keen on an even larger screen though, it seems contrary to the previous battle of who could make the smallest phone at the moment and for me they're all just too big.
 
I don't think I have to note I'm an Apple-fan since I started with the Apple IIc. I started a commercial-free forum years ago, to help starters and switchers with their hardware and software-questions. But I will never let force Apple or any other company to let me buy a product by demand or so. I use an iPhone 4 and never had any problem with bad receiving or bad software. In 2013 I will renew my phone contract and decide what to do with my iPhone. It can happen that I wait 1 more year to pick the iPhone 6. I'm not a gamer and speed is not an issue for me. I like to use some handy apps to track my biking and using it as a flashlight. Receiving my mail and messages is fine and also using Safari for surfing some sites.
 
So did you order one yet ??

I did. See previous page.

Hopefully it will be arriving on the 21st as stated, as I'm leaving for an important family event on the 22nd and would like to have working phone/camera/video etc.
 
I did. See previous page.

Hopefully it will be arriving on the 21st as stated, as I'm leaving for an important family event on the 22nd and would like to have working phone/camera/video etc.


Good luck. As usual they are oversold and there are delivery delays already. Google "iPhone 5 delays" for a whole mess of stories. You might be lucky............or not.
 
I have to agree with Larry. If you are counting on it arriving in time, then it won't. Murphy's law if nothing else :)

And if it does arrive in time you can count on not being able to transfer the settings you need, or that your provider will glitch in the set up and there'll be a delay in activating. Not even Mac products are immune to Murphy's law.

Glad you are happy with your new (future) phone. I have learned that for myself I don't want the product that is part of the 1st run off the line. Bugs, glitches and "unintended features" and "enhancements" are too common for my liking :)
 
That wasn't my intent - I just was wondering about the phenomena of why Apple can sell out a product that isn't much different than other options.

It's (apparently) mot much of a difference to you. The same thing happens with almost any object in our current society. The latest DSLR? Ooooh, the newest Canon - what's the big deal? They're just catching up with Nikon. Or vice versa. Have you test drove the newest Ford/Chevy/Dodge truck? Waaaay better than the Dodge/Chevy/Ford. It goes on and on.

And you have the further blockage to true comparison of holding a personal grudge against the company, to the extent (based on my observation) that even if Apple came out with a device that was truly and unarguably 10 times better than anything else at 1/10 the price you would still not buy it. That has to cloud your judgment of how "different" the iPhone 5 is.

I will probably be getting a 5. I've had my 3GS for 2-1/2 years and it's everything I want in a smartphone. One of the biggest reasons Nikon users stick with Nikon, Chevy with Chevy, etc is continuity. The basic way Nikons work stay pretty much the same; lenses are generally forward compatible, etc. I'm familiar with iOS, and all the features I use everyday are familiar to me. Why should I spend the time trying to learn new stuff when I what I have/know works fine for me?
 
And you have the further blockage to true comparison of holding a personal grudge against the company, to the extent (based on my observation) that even if Apple came out with a device that was truly and unarguably 10 times better than anything else at 1/10 the price you would still not buy it. That has to cloud your judgment of how "different" the iPhone 5 is.

Actually, I need to disagree. I don't have a personal grudge against the company. I have used Apple products in the past and if a new iPhone came out that was 10 times better than anything else, I would buy it.

My peeve with Apple is more a philosophical one - they tell the consumer what they need - and use their evangelical approach to convince them that what they have is all they need. I come from the opposite side of the track where what the consumer wants is what the market should have. This has come from over 30 years of working as a programming consultant with both sides of the fence (actually three - Microsoft, Apple and Linux/Unix). I remember numerous consulting gigs in the past where Apple's hardware and software inflexibilities disqualified them from whatever project it was.

I considered a iPod before I bought my Zune. I decided against the iPod because I wanted control (and ownership) over my music library. Ask Bruce Willis how he feels about all the money he has spent on his music library. If Apple structured iTunes in favor of the consumer, I might have gone with an iPod.

I think that the iPhone5 is a decent phone. But its not for me. At 4" its too small for me. No SD card is a bummer. Lack of simultaneous voice and data on Verizon (my carrier), no removable battery and other things means its not the phone for me. There are plenty of Android and Windows phones that I like even less. I think the new LG Intuition, for example, is a joke. I probably don't like 90% of all the phones out there. The iPhone is just one of them.

In the past, I may have gotten a little over amped about my feelings towards Apple. I am striving to keep my rhetoric a bit more balanced.
 
In the past, I may have gotten a little over amped about my feelings towards Apple. I am striving to keep my rhetoric a bit more balanced.

I am in the same boat with the political threads and have been striving to be more balanced too....


hahahahaha thanks for the good natured laugh Larry!!!!
 
The iTunes library is a serious item. I was a precursor in using iTunes as I think. Apple started to sell music in the USA for the very first time and within 48 hours I made myself a US-account by using a pre-paid card as I had arranged by the help of a friend in the USA. Than I started to investigate how Apple used DRM to protect the songs against use in other accounts. I simply burned all bought and free music on CD's, imported the music again in high quality and trashed the original files. This method assured me 100% personal control about my own music and no "tags" with notes about the used account.
I stopped using my USA-account about a year ago because I became an iPhone as I had to use my Dutch account to register my iPhone and because I decided to end it because of it's illegal character.
So if you wish to have 100% control over your music as well as your bought music, just burn it on a CD and replace the bought files by your own files and stack the CD's as a backup.
 
The iTunes library is a serious item. I was a precursor in using iTunes as I think. Apple started to sell music in the USA for the very first time and within 48 hours I made myself a US-account by using a pre-paid card as I had arranged by the help of a friend in the USA. Than I started to investigate how Apple used DRM to protect the songs against use in other accounts. I simply burned all bought and free music on CD's, imported the music again in high quality and trashed the original files. This method assured me 100% personal control about my own music and no "tags" with notes about the used account.
I stopped using my USA-account about a year ago because I became an iPhone as I had to use my Dutch account to register my iPhone and because I decided to end it because of it's illegal character.
So if you wish to have 100% control over your music as well as your bought music, just burn it on a CD and replace the bought files by your own files and stack the CD's as a backup.

For once we agree Peter. I have a library of about 3-400 CDs that I converted to MP3s. I have also been buying MP3 singles from Amazon. I manage it all using Windows Zune and most of it is also on my 30G Zune which is in the shop. I have several playlists (Favs, Classical, Christmas, 60s, etc) on the Zune. I also have an Soundfly MP3 player in my car - see the last post here - http://thegrumble.com/showthread.php?61997-Handy-Gadgets/page11&highlight=car+mp3+player

The Zune software allows me to burn SD cards to use with the SoundFly so I have several SD cards; one for each of the playlists above. Works out well and I own it all. And when I croak, I can leave it all to my critters.

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Earlier this year I let youall have at some of my playlists. In typical Grumble fashion, some of you let me know my tunes were a bit dated. I've been trying some of your suggestions - not a lot of penetration into my playlists so far. If you want to have at me again here is that thread - http://thegrumble.com/showthread.php?61021-Mo-Music-Please

BTW, some of your suggestions were a bit too generic - suggesting an artist is not what I want. I don't want to search their entire library. What I would like is specific song recommendations - then if I like it, I might look further that the artist. Some of the recommendations were very good, BTW.
 
Many of us who can handle music as they learned by practicing don't have to read this posting! It's just a note for those who became quality-troubles or never transferred music before.

1. Burn bought music (256 DRM iTunes files) in full AAC-quality on a CD for making backups.
2. Adjust your import-setting to MP3-files in the best quality. (It will be imported up to 290 kbps)
3. Never downgrade your original files.
4. Never try to make a AAC-CD again from MP3-files. (Very worse quality)
5. Skip the feature to convert MP3-files into 128 kbps-files with importing in an iPod or any other device to get a double number of files in the device. When you are a music-lover and easy-listener, you will hate it.
 
5. Skip the feature to convert MP3-files into 128 kbps-files with importing in an iPod or any other device to get a double number of files in the device. When you are a music-lover and easy-listener, you will hate it.

I made that mistake when I first stated converted my CDs to MP3. Even with my terrible hearing, 128 kbps files are horrible. I re burned most at 192.

Many of mine are now 192 kbps which is OK for my hearing - and some are 256 kbps. I can't tell the difference with most but your mileage may vary.
 
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